I despise having to repeat torghast

I feel like I am being farmed. It forces me to continuously repeat a boring, single person dungeon, with abysmal loot. Soul ash and Soul Cinder gathering is killing me less than 2 weeks into this repetitive grind. I’m only running my main toon at this moment, I cannot even Imagine having to get this for an Alt or more. Pure HELLISH TORTURE!!!. This feels like I am paying to feel pain. The kind of feeling you get, when the jig is nearly up, because the game is rigged to make you waste endless heartbeats on repetitive, and meaningless tasks, leading to insanity. Has to change, immediately.

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I completely agree with that statement.

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Then… stop doing it? I did.

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You don’t need the very best upgrade, the dps differential is minimal at best.

But I agree the initial farming it to at least get the average ilvl for it sucks.
It’s not a particularly fun thing to do also - especially when you feel you need the currency.

I’m sorry you dislike the new Torghast, and I do hope Blizzard adds a way for players like yourself to gain ash and cinder from other gameplay.

I could suggest trying it with a group and see if that helps? I find it enjoyable with 4 others, but I understand if it’s just not for you.

You must be new to MMOs.

That literally the whole game in some way or another.

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the whole game is one week on repeat at this point.

kinda feels like in the movie “Groundhog Day” but its a whole boring week instead of a single day :wink:

You can get soul ash from just doing tormentors of torgast every 2 hours. But torgast is faster.

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You don’t even need to upgrade legendary armor. Skip it

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You are being farmed for your user engagement. They chose draining the remaining players for all their time rather than making the game fun enough to attract new players or players in large numbers. Your daily/weekly cycle was invented to make you compensate for the lost players and thus spend a bunch of time. I hope you enjoy that time. Personally i always hated how torghast has to be done twice.

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You can get the very important tower knowledge so it’s well worth it.

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It doesn’t have to be a solo dungeon. There are usually groups in group finder.

And you should consider that some people enjoy it, so demanding immediate change to what you want it to be won’t make make it better for everyone

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I want the legendary and at a suitable ilvl. I am well aware of the grind for things you need in wow, but this is pure garbage and I can tell I’m going to hate it more than skettis. I enjoy most of the content of wow, but torghast is casting non stop pyro’s at my willingness to participate. I want to focus on pvp, not spend endless hours in hell, for minimal return. I would love to just say, hey, no problem, grind grind grind. It literally makes me feel ill.

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I realized a few weeks ago that even though I had the soul ash and cinders to upgrade my legendaries to Mac level, i couldn’t justify shelling out hundreds of thousands of gold for a slight stat boost…

So I just don’t bother to do Torghast at all anymore.

Until you hit the arbitrary cap argghh :slight_smile:

I only do Torghast for legendaries and then I hop out. There are no rewards other than gameplay. So why do you feel the need to grind It out unless you are collecting all legendaries. In that case hey, suck It up. You got some work to do.

I can’t remember the last time I did torghast. A legendary that’s 20/30 ilvls lower isn’t gonna hold you back in anything but the highest lvl play.

In the past 15 years or so we’ve evolved as a genre past the “Grind out X for Y weeks to get reward” MMORPGS have changed. WoW has not.

Bad content is NOT good design, and if a great many players hate your content then it is bad content.

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I don’t do it. Then again, I spend more time in older expansion than SL given how un-fun it is.

:cookie:

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Just skip it. I got my leggo to lvl 6 and never looked back. Now I get a trickle of soul cinders from missions and tormentors that I may eventually use to get a socket or 2 from the Death’s Advance vendor. But honestly, even that isn’t necessary to clear even heroic raids. I have no problem doing sufficient damage to clear heroic raid bosses; and doing a single over-time +15 mythic or a partial normal/heroic raid clear is enough to gain a bit more throughput from week to week.
Additionally, not participating in Torghast is probably the most effective way to let the devs know it’s bad, as they pay far more attention to the numbers than they do the forums.