Diablo 3 was bad because of Rift
Torgast is bad because of …
cheese?
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Torghast is bad because of Cyberpunk 2077?
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I don’t think Rifts are a meaningful part of the issues I have with D3.
But if they were, they’re more comparable to M+ than they are to Torghast.
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Because it had annoying things everywhere. Scaling elites. Torments that annoy me, nothing really changing that much to stir up some interest. And wonky for different specs, as well as a failed reward to make it worthwhile not to mention if a run is bust.
(I didn’t play D3 and suspect you are getting at it that they used d3 to craft this which I suspect has some big truths since we have some ex diablo people on this I think)
Diablo 3 was bad well before rifts were even a thing.
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Cheese? Where’s the cheese?
Interestingly enough, Diablo 3 was widely regarded as a total slog until Blizzard implemented Loot 2.0.
World of Warcraft has literally gone in the opposite direction of Diablo in this regard, dialing back the frequency of loot and giving the player a slot machine instead to hopefully pick 1 decent piece of gear for 20 hours of work.
Different genres require different mechanics and design solutions.
I don’t think the ‘shower the player with worthless loot’ of modern D3 is an ideal solution. I think the other fixes involved in that were more important, even within the ARPG genre, like for example, removing the RMAH.
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Ben Affleck …Yeahh I win 
wait ? Torgast is bad ?
I’m enjoying it, getting new powers constantly etc.
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Yea, I don’t think the great vault is a good idea either.
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Diablo 3 was bad because of Rift
Torgast is bad because its weird and I don’t really need more soul ash.
For some odd reason the shaman legendary Doom Winds is just better then all the others at everything.
Rifts in d3 are bad?? that’s literally the only reason I ever fire up d3 anymore these days, to occasionally do some rifts for fun. Diablo 3 at launch had what? Replay the campaign on a harder difficulty? RMAH? The little portal room or not-cow level?
Torghast is fun for me, I enjoy getting overpowered and doing ridiculous things in there. To each his own, of course.
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It also had Lag. Lots of lag. Like, dear god, the lag. Please help me, my barbarian keeps RUBBER BANDING INTO ATTACKS, BLIZZARD, PLEASE!
Why is cheese so good?
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Am I the only one who thought you were comparing it to the mmo rift?
Lol
Rifts are the only thing that got me to pick up D3 again for any period of time.
Diablo 3 was bad because it became accessible for every class to load their gear with dps increasing affixes. Its a fundamental design flaw.
When every slot is…
+main stat
+crit chance
+crit damage
+attack speed
1 defensive stat
…all gear is the same and the only way to create build diversity is by adding legendary effects/ set bonuses that say “this is the skill your class uses for the next few months.”
fixed that or you opie