So for years, I’ve been arguing about Forsaken Paladins and why it can’t happen according to the lore. So I got bored and started talking to the AI program about it, just asking it questions. These are it’s answers.
1) Why can’t Forsaken be Paladins?
The lore and game mechanics of World of Warcraft dictate that the Forsaken cannot be paladins. There are several reasons why this is the case:
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Undeath and the Holy Light: The Holy Light is the primary source of power for paladins, who draw upon its pure, life-affirming energies to heal and protect. However, the Forsaken’s state of undeath is inherently in opposition to the Holy Light. The Holy Light is associated with life and purity, and the Forsaken’s undead nature is considered an abomination by many who follow the Light.
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Corruption and Redemption: Paladins are often seen as virtuous and righteous champions, upholding ideals of justice and fighting for the greater good. The Forsaken, on the other hand, have a dark and troubled history, and their actions have often been morally questionable. They were once part of the Scourge and served the Lich King, perpetrating atrocities against the living. The path to redemption and acceptance by the Holy Light is a challenging one for the Forsaken.
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Cultural and Historical Factors: Paladins have historically been associated with the Alliance and specific races such as humans and dwarves. The Forsaken, aligned with the Horde, have a different cultural background and set of beliefs. The Horde has its own equivalent class, the Blood Knights of the Blood Elves, who draw power from alternative sources, such as the captured Naaru, to fill the role of paladins within the faction.
While the game mechanics and lore currently prevent the Forsaken from becoming paladins, it is important to note that the World of Warcraft universe is constantly evolving. Future expansions or updates could introduce new developments or possibilities that could alter these restrictions. However, as of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021, Forsaken characters are unable to become paladins within the game.
This is the cannon. This has been the cannon for decades now.
So I decided to ask it “Are Forsaken morally gray?”
Yes, the Forsaken can be considered morally gray characters within the World of Warcraft lore. The Forsaken are undead beings who broke free from the control of the Lich King, but their history and actions have often been marked by controversial and morally ambiguous choices.
On one hand, the Forsaken are a group of former humans who have suffered greatly. They were victims of the Scourge and endured the horrors of the undead transformation. Many Forsaken individuals have personal tragedies and losses, which has shaped their worldview and motivations. They strive to secure their place in the world, reclaim their homeland of Lordaeron, and ensure the survival of their people.
However, the Forsaken’s methods and actions can be seen as morally questionable. They have engaged in acts such as experimentation on living beings, including their own people, in pursuit of new forms of undeath or to further their goals. The Forsaken have also committed acts of aggression and violence against other factions, including the Alliance, in their quest for dominance and survival.
Furthermore, the Forsaken are led by Sylvanas Windrunner, whose motivations and actions have often strayed into morally dark territory. Sylvanas has shown a willingness to sacrifice others, including her own people, to achieve her goals and secure her power.
This moral ambiguity is one of the intriguing aspects of the Forsaken as a faction. It presents players with complex choices and dilemmas when interacting with them. Some Forsaken characters may genuinely seek redemption and strive to act with honor, while others embrace their darker nature and serve their own self-interests.
It’s important to note that individual Forsaken characters can have varying moral alignments, and not all Forsaken are inherently evil or morally gray. Some Forsaken may reject the darker aspects of their faction and work towards more noble goals, striving to prove that they can rise above their undead nature. The Forsaken as a whole, however, exist in a gray area within the Warcraft lore, with their actions and choices often falling into a morally ambiguous spectrum.
They’re neither good nor evil at this point in lore in general. That’s what morally gray is. Not all of them want world domination or death to all the living.
Then I asked it: Can Forsaken potentially use the Light in lore?
In the lore of World of Warcraft, Forsaken characters have demonstrated limited ability to use the Light, although it is a rare occurrence and not a widespread capability within the Forsaken community.
While the Forsaken’s undead state makes them inherently opposed to the Holy Light, there have been instances of individual Forsaken showing a connection to the Light. This connection is often tied to specific circumstances or unique individuals rather than being a common trait among the Forsaken as a whole.
One notable example is the character of Alonsus Faol, a former member of the Church of the Holy Light and a prominent figure in the Forsaken’s history. Alonsus Faol played a significant role in the Forsaken’s early days, seeking to guide them toward redemption and reclaiming their connection to the Holy Light. He taught a select few Forsaken priests to wield the Light, despite their undead nature. These priests, known as the “Forsaken Priests of the Holy Light,” serve as a small group within the Forsaken hierarchy.
Additionally, certain Forsaken individuals who were previously paladins in life may retain some connection to the Light. These individuals draw upon their pre-undeath training and memories to continue using paladin-like abilities, albeit with a darker twist. However, it’s important to note that these cases are exceptions rather than the norm, and the ability to use the Light among the Forsaken remains rare and limited.
Overall, while there are instances of individual Forsaken characters displaying a connection to the Light, it is not a widespread or common occurrence within the Forsaken community. The Forsaken’s undead nature and their troubled history make them incompatible with the Holy Light, and those who can tap into its power are the exception rather than the rule.
I completely forgot about Foal for some reason. What happened to his ashes/corpse? Do the Forsaken have him hidden somewhere?
Is there a non-warlock way to rez him? Maybe Calia holds the key?