I can't defend this MMO anymore

I came back for the nostalgia. No I don’t play classic. I mean back in WoD I came back after 10 years missed when TBC was out for the nostalgia. The part of my childhood that was robbed from me because I couldn’t afford it. And since I’ve been back I’ve defended retail, and I’ve backed it up. I tried classic but didn’t really like it, however I’ve been an avid supporter of retail since I’ve been back. However I just can’t sensibly support the boredom this game brings after you’ve beaten the hardest challenges.

Now that I’m an adult and I could afford it I… I can’t do this anymore. It’s messed up how Blizzard removes content from the game, and what the community has become. How can the community be so complacent with Raiding having four difficulties, and not only that, but one of the modes being comparably easier than a normal dungeon.

I kinda liked the Classic revamp idea, but the problem with classic is that the majority of people who play it aren’t actively doing it to support retail, they are doing it to somehow invoke a message to Blizzard that it was good, when in fact it wasn’t.

Across the many years I’ve spent switching from MMO to MMO, while not playing WoW, I stumbled into only one that I have deemed the best MMO to date, that has been actually much harder than Classic and that is Lord of the Rings Online (LOTRO).

I know what you’re thinking: How can a 15 year old game be the best? Well I’ll tell you. The first thing is that the Adventure comes first above everything. With LOTRO you experience endless maps, with epic travel times, Maps even that include places where you can actually get lost even with the Mini Map at your side. Every quest isn’t just an ordinary kill x of y or collect z, it’s all unique as you read each of the quests and what the NPCs want you to do for them.

Each map has an active story in it and you actually feel the struggle and danger as you progress deeper into Middle Earth, and the World is so huge and open I don’t think anyone can travel through all of it in a day. There’s aflavor to questing in that game that I can’t explain about it.

Apart from the adventure the challenge is also up there along with it. There is no way you can get by without having some sort of crafting into your character. You have to work along with your Kinship (guild) to create armor, trinkets, and weapons, and not only that there’s specific sets of armor unique for your class that you can create.

You also go along with the story now, you get to experience all the moments described in the book such as the fall of Numenor, and All the lands surrounding Rohan, Gondor, and even Mordor!

I went back to wow for a time, and when I came back for one day to experience WoW I was so dead inside after realizing that my T3 season 1 BFA Helmet wouldn’t drop from a warfront. The game as a whole feels unrewarding.

LOTRO is a step up once you reach the Mines of Moria. The game becomes increasingly harder and that’s the beauty of the challenge. You build your armor all throughout, you improve your character, and you get rewarded points for doing deeds that you can use to trade for things in the store. Granted the store isn’t a Pay to Win one, most of the items on it are boosts for exp and cosmetics.

I wish I could explain the vastness of LOTRO and save people from this MMO. I’ll do it by describing an example of one of my adventures. In the Lone Lands East of Bree there was a sudden uprising that took place in the fortress of the Eglain. When a fortress fell the free peoples that were fleeing were entrapped by the webs of vicious huge spiders that worked along the Goblins that overtook the fortress. As the adventurer you have to break into the fortress, kill the leader and burn the remains of the victims who fell in the valley while fleeing who got caught in the spiders webs.

I broke into the fortress, but found myself surrounded by a mass of goblins, after fighting them underneath the bridge you could peer into the spiders crawling in the valley, so I took out my bow to attempt to kite one of them to me, noting that these spiders were 2 levels higher than me and elite, I accidentally lost my footing and fell in to the valley. 3 of the spiders came at me and thanks to the armor I made for myself and the weapons my kinship helped create for me I was able to kill them. I proceeded to look for an exit from the valley and burned the bodies of the fallen as I went along.

When I reached the exit point leading into the fortress I had to fight through hoardes of goblins and eventually kill their leader, and ruthlessly fight my way out of the fortress too. And damn did it feel great. I loved it. and I think anyone who tries it will too. The dungeons are even harder than the open world stuff because the dungeons have traps in them and different bosses have unique mechanics that prevent you form just hacking away at them like you do in WoW.

And now is the best time to play because they introduced Legendary servers that give you that true LOTRO experience. Essentially you replay all 5 expansions, except you can do the legacy content like you can in Classic WoW. And after 4 months, a new expansion is released. It’s been fun and I haven’t looked back. If you decide to try the game I hope you have an awesome experience as I have.

Maybe in the future if wow finds a better way to make legacy raids and content work, maybe I’ll come back, I don’t know.

This reads like a thinly veiled advertisement for LOTRO.

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:eyes: Then go play something else lol. FFXIV has some really good story lines, and if you are a hardcore player the savages are really brutal. You get marks on the floor to tell you whats up but its still pretty difficult to master your class.

if you are bored, just stop playing. If you don’t like it anymore, that is fine. I left for a few years then came back, then left for a year to play FFXIV, then came back. If you aren’t feelin it, you just aren’t feelin it, but not sure why you need a novel to explain that? :c

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I felt like I had something to get off my chest. I really did like wow, I was fascinated by it as a kid, and now it’s as if Blizzard has betrayed me. I love lord of the rings just as much, and while my moments in wow are short lived, I felt compelled to share with others an MMO that’s so much richer, where as I have mentioned, the adventure element really exists and you can feel it.

And I’ve played a ton and I mean a ton of mmos, even space ones like star trek online, none of them compare to the adventure that exists in LOTRO. Your friends mean something they arent just people you meet as friends. You have to work with others, the MMO aspect is there.

FF14 is not that good. Very casual’s game. Even their Devs Yosha whatever said at Tokyo Gameshow it was designed for casual so nobody need to play every days.

I tried it. I got a Dancer level 80. Got my weapon from the Extreme boss fight. It is a bad alternative to wow.

Sorry you’re having a rough go at it…

But if WoW ever gets playable Arakkoa, you damn well better believe I’m dropping everything to play it again. XD :bird:

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You did Extremes? But you didn’t mention that you did Savages lol. Extremes are not Savages.

Go do a few Savages, and not just the first , but all of them and then let me know how casual it is :slight_smile:

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What is the point to invest myself to do savage when my ilvl is capped in 98% of the content I do?

It is a bad mmo. Just accept it.

rofl just stick with wow classic, I’m not gonna persuade you.

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It’s a way better game then FF14 at least!

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I have not tried FF14 only because it is really more of a weeaboo game. That’s it. I’ve thought of trying it but I can’t embrace that lifestyle, I prefer to pay to play lotro because it has a more serious tone to it. Your horse isn’t going to wear a wizard hat. And you as a player do matter to the lore and you get rewarded for being a part of it.

I’ve not played an MMO other than WoW and an old Digimon game that died years ago.

Still haven’t touched another one since.

In terms of difficulty, not so much, but you do you :laughing: :rofl:

Like seriously, when 40 man raids are taken down in the first week by 25 level 58s, yea sure buddy, its more better and more difficult.

Bye Troll, you’ve given me a few chuckles :cookie:

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Neverwinter is very popular on xbox as well if you like more DnD / lotr fantasies

Soooo maybe don’t do that? You don’t have to stay subscribed all the time. Play your hardest challenges, unsub, come back when there’s more. Eazy peazy.

40 man taken down or not is not the point. Game is fun and give freedom and do not regulate my gear to do something.

Also if you think spending 6 months on 4 boss fight is fun? you do you. Still bad design. And further prove 14 is casual stuff. Enjoy youe roulettes at forced gear cap to get your currency to buy that gear for savage, I guess?

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I’m not a petulant child that has to say one is better than the other. I’m merely saying that you are wrong, it isn’t a bad game. You said it was easy. It’s not, you just did only the easy content. You didn’t do the savage raiding, and you’re acting like oh, this person does roulettes every day.

you are complaining about the writing and challenge of this game, and you are going to call another game that just got awards for their writing the best game they’ve written yet. Even Blizzard gave them props. They based their game on WoW after demolishing the original after it was bad.

Why on Earth would you call them a derogatory word?

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Don’t take this the wrong way, I’m not purposefully attacking wow. I was indeed a really huge fan of the lore. And I think it is not my intention to berate it, I just feel like the adventure element isn’t there. You also don’t depend on others for much other than yelling at people to get mechanics and class rotations/skillset right. It’s become so bad for me that I call it world of simcraft because that’s 80% of what I do to get better. Just Sim.

For questing I don’t even really read the quest I just do the thing and move on. The quests themselves are mostly meaningless.

It is pretty easy. Eden Savage was downed in 4 days.

People like you who are Subbed here while praising FF14 are silly.

Because there are actual fans that call themselves that willingly?

It’s not as derogatory as it used to be – same thing happened with the terms “nerd” and “geek”.

Either way, the game looks like an anime love letter.