I can fix arena participation with one change

Add PVE tier gear to be bought with arena points for 1.5x cost of pvp gear. Similar to valor for deadly set.

If PVP pants are 2250 arena points PVE pants would be 3375. This would make every single PVE or PVP player feel like they are being rewarded for doing just 10 games a week. Alts would even sneak 10 games in per week. Boom Wotlk pvp saved. Thank me later!

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no wth

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I mean… If I could participate in Arena, I would. Can’t find anyone to go with

You’re not wrong.

Sold, but just tier and emblem gear

Or just give people emblems for winning games. Might be an easier sell.

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I see the value to this idea.

It be the raid loggers and the memed 5% or the try hards who think they are the 5% (but aren’t) who’d rant.

I have to pvp to pve! I Loved it when they said that in SL 9.0 timeframe. with the loot fairy not being very nice many carebears were not happy to come to pvp for their missing slot pieces till RNG gave them some love.

Often in wow’s history…pvp has to pve. I’ve often thought wow should be more equal here. PVP and PVE has to do what they don’t want to lol. PVP has done it for years…it should be pve’s time to deal with it.

I’d happily grind out a 245/252 weapon for 10,000 arena points

This, I can’t get Voldrethar or Aesirs edge to drop.

Looking to see if there is legit 1 downside ?

Doubt it…,

Hammer of Crushing Whispers dropped today. I didn’t win, but the weapons do drop. Just bad rng is all.

Check out the Cross Realm Arena Discord [US]: https://discord.gg/w2UNDHhQ48

I don’t know why people have this mentality that if one must suffer, everyone must suffer…

How about we reduce the requirement of PvE to PvP instead of trying to make PvP a requirement for PvE?
Look at feral tank, they are required to PvP to be effective and what do we get? No Feral tank to be seen anywhere.

I don’t think the lack of feral tanks is due to them not getting BIS gear via PvP. They are not taken because their defensive CDs are not even close to what Paladins and DKs have.

Granted, they do need to do something about PvP participation. I was a full participant as enhance in TBC, also in S5, but just after one season in wrath I could tell it’s a waste of time and stopped. I have missed it a little, but the frustration of finding people and wait times are not enjoyable.

Except this is at heart a pve game with a pvp side game.

And over incentivizing pve rewards in pvp might force more people into pvp but it’s not going to be people who want to be there which ultimately makes for a worse experience for everyone.

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No one seems to remember Arena Season 1… Many players felt forced to participate to get their ā€œBiSā€ item that happened to be PvP gear. It increased people queuing… can’t say it increased participation.

It’s a good suggestion. Mirror the Heroism/Valor/Conquest vendors with Honor/Arena(cheap)/Arena(expensive) vendors.

Classic has had plenty of ā€˜PvP to PvE’ already. Tank gearing in TBC wasn’t too bad but Vanilla ranking for high warlord and grand marshal weapons by BWL was a toxic gongshow

Shouldn’t the glory of WoW that is Wrath PvP cause arena participation to be high on its own?

Dude no kidding! There’s another thread on this forum where someone argues that Prot Paladins should be nerfed to be in line with Prot Warriors, all because Ret paladins got a buff.

Buncha salty troglodytes in here!

Valid point. But It could go either way.

I was once a carebear 100%. Many many moons ago.

then I found the pvp lakes of warhammer online. I tasted blood. and I wanted more. Warhammer online dangled the pvp bait for rewards to at least give it a go. some even found fun along the way.

then I went to eve. the secret to a great eve experience is to join corps and pvp.

I will grant it be harder for wow to pull this off. elune knows in AV alone you get people there for the wrong reasons.

Omg, HPH (honor per hour) is ruined. I personally like it when AV actually has pvp. vann, or drek, will die eventually. I embrace the actual pvp till then. its 5 more minutes of what its supposed to be. a pvp event lol.

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