Finally heard someone else say it, but I only recently got into watching anime shows due to having some employees who are super into it and I wanted to have something in common. Long story short, I like quite a few shows now and Overlord/Log Horizon are really cool.
Why can’t MMOs be like that? When I watch those shows it brings me back to what WoW used to be. Modern WoW is nothing like how MMOs are portrayed or even historically thought of.
You want to sell burgers in-game? 
I think a lot of those aspects were stripped away moving from Cata, MoP and then to WoD — It felt like Legion brought a few things back for a while, particularly with professions & empowerments — but then went back a few steps when entering into BFA and then even further with Shadowlands. 
Dragonflight felt like a slow crawl to re-establish some cool story concepts, since SL violently butchered much of the lore — and TWW seems like it’s laying out the playing field, but in terms of MMO-RPG tropes & such, it feels like we’ve got awhile to go before we return to some of what we use to hold in this game.
You want a tight nit community where everyone works together to a common goal.
Have you played MMOs before WoW? I played Final Fantasy 11 and it was hardcore hell, you couldnt solo anything past level 12 unless you were two specific advanced classes. Community was strong, but alienated solo players or anyone who couldnt connect well with others. If you fell out of your community, it could be difficult getting back in or finding another. Players who didnt play during peak hours struggled to group up and when a game is heavily focused on community you could spend hours LFG, find nothing, then log off for the day.
I do not look forward to those days ever again and after WoW most MMOs like that either saw diminishing player counts or died off, usually holding onto hardcore fans.
In a word? Corporate greed.
I’m confused. You want WoW to be like anime? I think I’m missing context here.
different genres. one is manga, and the other is Western themed
He wants wow to feel like it did when he first played it ^^
Maybe like Final Fantasy?
They have sexy mogs and ours is getting censored.
It’s kinda sad that people rob themselves from just enjoying the game currently because they’re obsessed with feeling that rush of playing the game for the first time again.
I wish people could just learn to let it go already. You can still enjoy things plenty even if it’s not your first time enjoying them.
Oh… so like a first time experience thing? I gotcha. Thanks!
Yeah, unfortunately I don’t think that is possible.
Convenience and survivorship bias.
Convenience dismantles the necessity of community and communication, the friction of which was in part responsible for the formation of Ainz Ooal Gown in Overlord and the various friendships in Log Horizon. Of particular note are players with the chef skill in the latter.
The establishment of conventions in modern game design over time and ballooning of budgets lends itself naturally to iteration over innovation. A successful formula exists, why stake your millions on substantial deviation therefrom? Never mind any ideas that were tried and failed in the past, they failed after all! Survivorship bias.
But on top of that you have to consider in both of those animes the players become their characters. We’d probably all be a lot more chummy with each other if we were suddenly zapped into Azeroth as our characters, but we’re not there yet either technologically, spiritually or otherwise, so we must for simulacra settle. And as the image of any husk too long glued to their screen and social media feed can attest, simulacra are no substitute.
Also watch the 90’s adaptation of Berserk.
Also watch Frieren: Beyond Journey’s End.
Convenience is what killed the ‘old WoW feeling’.
LFG tools, portals everywhere, mounts right away at 20, and so-on.
There’s basically no downtime anymore, and that was spent being social or grinding.
Yet it’s also not something I think could’ve been preserved- humans naturally add or invent things in their lives to make things easier, without thinking about what they’d lose.
Cars for example, exist now and we can’t go back to a world without cars and roads all over, and pollution and stuff, we’ve made our beds and must lie in them.
WoW was really an ‘in the moment’ thing like childhood somewhat (the first time), it was a wonderful thing to be enjoyed.
You never know what’s missing until it’s gone.
Fictional MMOs tend to give players way too much power over the world itself, and small groups end up ruining the game for everyone else.
That’s neat for a story, not so neat when you have your limited free time wrecked by someone else’s ego trip.
unfortunately, nostalgia is a fickle mistress. You will never again know the feeling of first installing the game and finding community. It’s been 20 years and a whole lot of people have grown up and gotten cynical and don’t have time to play together anymore.
My understanding is that they want WoW to be like how MMO-RPGs are portrayed in anime.