Hunters

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So I have read that hunters lag behind other dps when it comes to raiding. Can anyone confirm?
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Hunters are strong tell around aq40 and naxx. Even in mc and bwl they will start to lag behind mages, rogues and especially fury warriors.
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10/31/2018 10:58 PMPosted by Mooniah
Hunters are strong tell around aq40 and naxx. Even in mc and bwl they will start to lag behind mages, rogues and especially fury warriors.


By how much?
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10/31/2018 11:05 PMPosted by Christopher
By how much?

A noticeable amount. It doesn't help that many raids will tell the hunters to spec into Trueshot and give melee rogues/warriors more AP, rather than a large amount of increased agility they could get from deep Survival.

Hunters are also largely the highest skill cap class in the game, too.
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10/31/2018 11:05 PMPosted by Christopher
10/31/2018 10:58 PMPosted by Mooniah
Hunters are strong tell around aq40 and naxx. Even in mc and bwl they will start to lag behind mages, rogues and especially fury warriors.


By how much?
Does it matter so much to you? You are still kings of solo content. And are necessary in raids because if tranq shot and your kiting abilities. No class was the best at everything in vanilla.

Warriors were one of the best at a lot. But not everything
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10/31/2018 11:11 PMPosted by Hatchmark
Warriors were one of the best at a lot. But not everything

Warriors were the absolute worst in solo content, and even solo PvP. It's what's making me wonder if I want to roll another one in Classic or not. The 1-60 is just so awful, and PvP is so reliant on a healer.
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I honestly don't remember the gap. I just know the ones I raided with where middle of the pack and that included the one that was in almost full t2.

We asked them to be marks for the trueshot aura. Most did auto shot due to swing timers.

This go around as raid leader I be thrilled to have ones that actually knew how to kite. Being good will earn you a spot even if you can't top a meter.
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Mage/lock/rogue/warrior: 1000+
Hunter: 750
Feral druid: 700 (if you have the ping to powershift)
Shadow priest: 700 (if you can reserve two debuff slots)
Balance druid: 6-700 (if you can innervate yourself)
Elemental shaman: 5-600 (nature damage non-viable during MC and parts of AQ)
Retribution paladin: 4-500
Enhancement shaman: 4-500 (probably lower in reality if you have to use Nightfall)

these are assuming you don't go OOM, RIP boomkins
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You will be fine.

Someone has to take that hunter gear that drops.
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10/31/2018 11:12 PMPosted by Espur
10/31/2018 11:11 PMPosted by Hatchmark
Warriors were one of the best at a lot. But not everything

Warriors were the absolute worst in solo content, and even solo PvP. It's what's making me wonder if I want to roll another one in Classic or not. The 1-60 is just so awful, and PvP is so reliant on a healer.


Every 30 minutes though, you could absolutely wreck that odd elite quest mob with recklessness or retaliation. But yea, its definitely not the smooth sailing that a hunter is in solo content..

To the OP, imo the classic Hunter is one of the funnest and best put together classes in the game, not top dps in raids but it makes up for it in other areas of the game. Its not going to be my main but im definitely going to have one as one of my first alts.
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Being useful in the guild can net you a raid spot.. so can being guild leader.

Also filling a ranged dps slot, depending on guild size etc
Plus most of the time you wont be raiding so hunters are great, if not a little boring after a while...
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They can compete in BWL and MC but will usually not top the charts. They don't scale well so at the point of AQ 40 and after you're pretty much just a utility class. Max 3 hunters per group. They are super fun though, 2nd best at gold farming, and are amazing in PVP.
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If your raid doesn't have hunters you don't have any way to remove enrage effects from the corehound bosses which means you will not be progressing.

their dps is a non issue.
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decent hunters are always needed . Keep on Tranqing Baby
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I didn't raid in Vanilla, but I plan on rolling a Hunter in Classic because of our great power in solo content. Even in Retail I argue we're one of the most powerful soloers, despite most classes having self-heals. I think perhaps only tanks with big self-healing capabilities are more powerful.

As for raiding, if I did decide to raid in Classic it would depend on what spec/talent configuration. If I had to get TS Aura and/or be Marks I probably wouldn't do it. I'm BM in retail and WANT to be BM in Classic. I did go Surv back in Wrath because it was arguably more powerful, but also because of some other debuffs Surv gave in that era (mana regen, that weakness debuff or whatever it was called, etc.). But Marks was never my cup of tea and I do NOT want to raid if that's what I have to be.
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10/31/2018 10:56 PMPosted by Christopher
So I have read that hunters lag behind other dps when it comes to raiding. Can anyone confirm?


Hunters weren't top dps in vanilla. Then again they had utility skills that were needed.