My first wow character was a hunter which I mained until wrath when I switched to DK. I’m thinking about rejoining the hunter ranks while this xp buff is ongoing.
How are you guys doing in M+ and pvp? What specs are you running? How does the class play and feel nowadays? I would like to get some feedback before I commit to the leveling journey.
BM is great in pve atm. PVP is fun if you like melee.
In raids and M+ BM is pretty good. I like the way it plays, it’s mostly gcd locked once you get enough crit.
PvP is kinda bad unless you’re survival. Compared to other classes I’ve played playing BM or Marks feels like you’ve got one hand tied behind your back.
Marks can deal some good burst with double tap and rapid fire, but doesn’t really feel like it can kite very well. The problem is the way it’s designed around aimed shot and how rapid fire is a channeled ability that can be stopped. The spec just doesn’t seem to be designed very well for pvp.
BM just feels like there isn’t any oomf to your attacks and the consistent damage can mostly be out healed. BM got nerfed in pvp the second week of arena being out this xpac and has been bottom tier since then. If BM didn’t get the heavy nerf bat early on it would probably be decent.
They seem to be doing good DPS wise. BM is ranked 2nd and MM is ranked 3rd according to Noxxic.
For PvP I am a little disappointed but I’m going to keep playing MM because using camouflage with sniper shot along with double down and aimed shot is hilarious. I love blowing up people and I can only imagine it gets better with a higher ilvl. Once I’m caught though it’s pretty much game over unless other teammates are around.
BM pets in PvP are strong but kind of pointless since they can’t teleport to their target anymore. I don’t know when they took that ability away but it makes them feel less powerful in PvP. Being far away and having your pets stick to a target is still hilarious though.
I rarely see Survival Hunters. I enjoyed their gameplay more than when they were a ranged spec. Survival just seems to be what the Outlaw spec is for Rogues. It’s weird and clunky but it’s there.
What everyone else has said for pve pretty much.
I can only speak for MM but this more or less. MM can do well in pvp but only when they’re allowed to hide in the back. Any time a melee comes at you, if they have any skill at all, it’s a toss up on can you kill them 1st. Any time more than 1 melee comes at you, you may as well just put your head between your knees and pray they’re gentle.
I’ve been a blood dk so that’s the opposite of my current experience lol. I pride myself on being annoying in bgs for as long as possible. Which hunter build has the best survivability? BM or Survival
Noxxic isn’t too reliable as according to Warcraft logs mythic nyalotha raid numbers BM is the Top hunter spec ranked at number 3 DPS overall with SV being the second best hunter spec ranked at number 11 DPS and MM being the weakest ranked at number 11.
Of course those are just the Mythic Statistical rankings, Heroic numbers vary with MM and SV being lower on the list but SV being just a bit higher than MM.
SV is the strongest spec for pvp currently because for some reason BM damage in pvp is very undertuned and MM is too easy to lock down with its cast times.
I main SV and off spec marksman so I enjoy both playstyles, BM i could get better numbers but I’ve never been a fan of the playstyle so its eh for me.
Guess i’ll pick up a melee heirloom for bgs. I prefer control/survivability builds for pvp so that sounds more promising
I will say this, I do really well in the mid as MM in Eye of the Storm. Nothing like standing there, using burst shot and watching 1 or more people go flying off into the abyss.
It is possible to perform well in Bgs with MM but you do have to play with your team and know when to run away. Prioritize Sniper shot and run Double Tap with Steamline rapid fire for the best moblie burst pressure.
I also run Ancient Flame but keep it macro’d as a self heal when I pvp with Hunter because our Survivability is pretty weak and the extra heal is much better than the dps.
As BM In PvE with the Dance of death +Primal instincts traits you will destroy meters.
Crit > haste > mastery (always sim yourself tho)
In PvP BM is pretty good too as it has high sustain. As long as you keep stun + trapping healer and keep trap on cd and keep landing them you can get some good wins. Im currently almost 1700 and still pushing. Its not tier 1 or anything but its viable.
^This and being able to snipe from far away areas while they are still in mid.
Watching people poop themselves after you crank them with a couple of aimed shots is very satisfying lol
Hate it.
Hunter was my main forever.
My first character in vanilla.
Hunter, ever since WoD, especially in Legion and now, just feels… Boring.
I bring nothing to the table.
Pets are all pretty much cookie cutters of each other.
Pets are squish, even tanky pets are much more squish.
Pet healing isnt as great.
Pet pathing is garbage. It’s like how Hati was in legion, but now both pets are dumb.
I feel like I only like, maybe 4 buttons to push.
I miss having to actually take care of your pet and train it. Less of a bond without that.
IDK. I’m sure many people will be like "BUT USHI, YOURE SO DUMB, YOURE CLEARLY JUST DOING IT WRONG ", but that still doesnt change the fact that the class, the class I have played for most of my WoW experience doesnt FEEL fun to me any more.
I feel same specs have changed too drastically from wod + and i miss how fun it was. I been in ping pong with shammy and hunter, but even though i solo lot easier as hunter it isnt as fun.
Reporting back in on my new huntress! Got to lvl 80 so far. Surprisingly, survival has been my favorite even though I went in expecting to be marks. Feels pretty versatile and I’m more at home right up in mobs faces.
BM is the only spec I haven’t tried but since pet AI isn’t the best and I heard it lacks burst for pvp I think I’m going to leave that spec on the back burner.
I feel the same way. I haven’t enjoyed my hunter for a while now, probably not since MoP TBH. I don’t remember why but i didn’t play him much in WoD.
I really enjoy SV in open world content and what not though, unlike BM and MM. It’s fun in that sense for me, but I don’t care for it for raiding or Mythic+. It just doesn’t feel good to work that hard for the dmg I can put out, compared to my other melee characters I mean. With a few changes I’m sure they could make it great, but for now, it’s meh.
Honestly, I think if they buffed the sustained cleave, and just did something about mongoose bite, GOD i hate mongoose bite. I wish it were like 3 stacks max for the same dmg… I just feel like it takes forever to ramp up, and when I finally get to max stacks I have no focus left, and by the time I get enough focus to dump more MB’s, the window is ending. It just doesn’t feel fun to me, i hate it. lol. /Rant