Hunters are doomed for raid DPS

Here’s a list of the current top dps in this early MC era according to Warcraft Logs:

Warrior - 1,206.5 dps
Rogue - 1,040.8 dps
Mage - 741.6 dps
Warlock - 682.9 dps
Feral Druid - 664.7 dps
Hunter - 650.2 dps

Hunters were generally considered to be strong in molten core (and generally across Vanilla), but the raid logs for Classic show that’s not the case. Casters get proper itemization by BWL/ZG and shoot way up in dps, warriors and rogues continue to scale well with gear, yet hunters are known to scale horribly and don’t benefit from any of the Attack Power world buffs/raid buffs/consumables.

To already be this far behind… the rest of the game is not looking good for the class.

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Hunter is brought for utility. You’ll always have a slot. Don’t be paranoid.

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Well, three hunters, at most, will.

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I dont see paladins and shamans on your list

LOL

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Raids aren’t using tranq shot on Mag. I predict we’ll see the same thing in BWL

They’re literally at the bottom.

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Not to be one of those guys but… is this thread supposed to give us info we don’t know? I mean hasn’t every single piece of knowledge been obtained about this game? Is there something different with classic compared to vanilla or private servers? I mean sure one could say hunters used to be seen as great dps in vanilla. But I’m sure over the years things have figured out. What’s the point here?

Even so, what does that matter? Maintaining a 40 man roster post bwl is also difficult, so unless it’s a tip top speedrunning record seeking guild, you’re not gonna get dumped for some rando.

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I’ve already rerolled. For this to be where we’re at our strongest, we’re ridiculously mediocre and it’ll only get worse. PvP is also borked so there’s just no reason for me to play the class anymore.

I wonder why anyone plays a DPS outside the holy trinity of Rogue, Warrior, and Mage. Especially since Warriors actually have beneficial bugs.

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Private servers had a good guess on a lot of stuff but the state of classic is very different. DPS is way higher, tanks are way tankier, buffs/consumables etc all behaving differently. Could even blame some of the oddities from backporting from the Legion client. Lots is new

Are people really doing 1k dps?

With all world buffs, min/max play and a huge amount of consumables, yeah.

So? The game isn’t all about raiding.

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hunters falling off in vanilla has been known forever. it’s why guilds will only take 2/3 past mc-bwl. just get in good with a guild and clear all the content. guilds will always take atleast a few hunters, if only so they can pick up tier pieces / ranged weapons. have fun playing what you want

The problem is we’re a pure DPS and among all pures, we are by far the weakest. We scale the worst. We have debilitating bugs. Outside of raiding, we’re mediocre in PvP (or bad due to the bugs), and there’s nothing to really look forward to.

Unlike hybrids, who are also bad at DPS, we can’t just swap to a healing spec and be in demand.

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Well, people wanted Vanilla…and this is what Vanilla was like.

Most of us don’t play hunter for the top-tier endgame. It’s one of the best leveling, farming and solo classes around, and is easy to play. And that counts for something.

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Your numbers will be a bit different when later phase bosses start requiring members to do move a lot more (which means locks and mages lose dps).

Also “doomed for raid DPS” is silly. 500 dps is way more than enough for these Tier 1 raids.

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The bugs aren’t authentic.

Hunters are severely hurt by movement too. The problem is that we’re not going to scale very well either, given our pets are static and the way buffs work doesn’t affect us as much.

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I hear this is part of the charm.

Not quite. Mages and Warlocks get much higher with BWL and ZG and beyond when they get better itemization.

I do agree 500dps is way more than enough for MC. But if warriors are already doing double the damage as hunters in Phase 1, when we know how badly hunters falloff later in addition to tranquilizing shot mechanics already being ignored, that’s a bit troubling at the least

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