A hunter can heal for more damage versus a rogue, bursts more damage than Fury by a mile stretch, more stuns and ccs than a monk, can rid itself of any magical/bleeding effects, constantly on the move.
Hunters can exploit one-shots with Pocket of Razor Fragments, burst down a well geared pvp toon from 100-0 in 2 seconds flat, play los too hard, making it hard to keep up with or be in range.
Great to know that my rogue heals itself for 20% of hp over 4 seconds and that being my only heals, but it’s okay that a hunter can heal itself consistently.
Blizzard is really “great” at “balancing” classes and they believe Hunters are nerfed still and denying to realize. Can’t enjoy a regular arena without two hunters just bursting you before you even “tab” or click on one of them.
You’re a pinecone if you think that Hunters are not overpowered.
             
            
              
              
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              I don’t pvp in this game anymore, but 10/10 post because of using the word pinecone.
             
            
              
              
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              Wait but we have 1 heal? I guess 2 with mending bandage?
             
            
              
              
              
            
           
          
            
            
              Pinecone. Still more heals than what my rogue can do.
             
            
              
              
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              I can only heal constantly if I’m smart enough to have a Spirit Beast and have Spirit Mend’s auto-mode disabled so I can use it on-demand when Exhilaration is on CD.
I guess you attacked a Hunter who actually knows how to play their class.
We’re not OP at the moment per the logs saying the opposite.
However, if you can juggle in RL and are a multi-tasking ninja, have mostly active talents instead of being lazy and relying on the passive ones, have all of your pet’s talents auto-modes OFF and have them macro’d & hot-keyed to use them on-demand virtually dual-wielding your ranged weapon + your pet as melée while CC-ing with BM’s two sad traps, all of which can be cast while moving, it can make up for our current low AF DPS numbers.
             
            
              
              
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Not sure what you are complaining/crying about OP?
Every expansion there is always one or more top dogs in pvp… It’s like the wow saying: No king rules forever.
Gotta remember, just two expansions ago in Legion, Rogues were the top dogs in pvp, hard to kill, insanely opverpowered, and able to take down players in arenas in 1-2 seconds flat (just youtube rogue pvp videos from legion to see proof).
Then last expansion in BFA warlocks were the top dog in pvp… able to throw an insane amount of overpowered chaos bolts that each nuked down 50%+ of a player’s health, if not one shot them if they got a buffed fat crit (plenty of videos of even top arena players (i.e. Venruki’s or cdew’s team) getting destroyed by locks during BFA in under a second or two.
This time around, it’s Hunters… also to note SV hunters were the among bottom 1/2 of the dps charts for numerous patches during Legion and BFA (and 100% completely unviable for pve).
Also can’t really be upset at a class/spec at the end of an expansion when players are only op due to borrowed power (i.e. legendaries/tier sets) as Blizzard these days seems to intentionally let player balance go out the window and allow classes who are op remain op until next expansion.
Just be glad that pvp isn’t like the sh*t show it was back at the end of BFA in 8.3, where the winners of pvp was determined by the first person who got a corruption proc to go off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRUeUsMJvqU&t=197s
             
            
              
              
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yea uhh I 100% disagree here. It’s super easy to just CC a Surv/MM fury is incredibly hard to counter by comparison.
Suggestion: Use your CC
             
            
              
              
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              Hunters can control snails.
They’re only protoform snails, but still.
They are growing too powerful.
             
            
              
              
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              Pretty damn sure Rogues have a heal via a conduit for Slice n Dice.
All 3 rogue specs are decent or better in pvp. Sub still being king of control, Sin (esp NF) can easily kill with Sepsis, and Outlaw is also great at control with the cdr they get and their damage is good.
Hunters are fine if not annoying if you stand there like a piñata and let the MM one tap ya. Surv and Bm both have strengths and weaknesses. Let’s not forget the legendary Craven combined with the pvp talent that negates lotta specs but they are nowhere near mongoloid Fury/DH.
Rogues/Fury/Frost mage are more OP than hunters…just my scrubalicious 2c
             
            
              
              
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              I’ve mained a Hunter since BC and have tried all three specs at one point or another. Hunters are one of those classes that It takes 5 minutes to learn and a LOT longer to master. We do have a fairly nice toolbox of abilities, but we definitely do not have the highest damage output at the moment.
It sounds like your Rogue got flared, then stun locked and focused down. If it’s any consolation, that’s usually what happens when a hunter is stupid enough to not use camo in the arena.
             
            
              
              
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              Is this a post from Ragemode’s evil twin?
             
            
              
              
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              Hunter is a rogue counter. Next.
gets killed in pvp, comes to forums
             
            
              
              
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I guess that’s why PvP statistics show them not being within the top 15 specs…
They are so OP the are too good to even rank.
             
            
              
              
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This is the truth.  Hunter’s were designed in PVP to hard counter rogues.  So of course a well played hunter is going to kill a rogue, they’re supposed to.   Leave the hunter to classes better suited to bringing it down and you go melt the classes you’re better at destroying.
             
            
              
              
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              Every hunter spec is C tier in overall pvp (2s, 3s, RBG).
In battlegrounds, MM is C tier and the other two specs are F tier.
Complaining about hunters in pvp right now is silly.
             
            
              
              
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