Like the title says.
What an absolute joke it is to play this class in PVP now.
- We are losing our Necrolord shield next week.
- Our 40% (maxxed) shield is on a 3min CD.
- Our turtle shell is also on a 3 MINUTES CD.
- We also have practically ZERO health regen.
How do you expect surviving bursts in Arena or Solos? Run away constantly? MM has to be stationary for 1.5 sec to cast our main damage dealer (aimed shot).
Don’t mean to complain, but this is extremely unfair and unfun, makes most people avoid this class entirely now.
FIX THIS.
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Wut.
Nobody played necrolord anyways. Yes hunter defenses are kinda bad besides Ross but it’s been that way for a while.
They really need improved primarily for survival since it’s melee IMO
While I mostly agree with your post, you’re going to get flack for this part. I’ve been doing a lot more PvP than normal recently and MM Hunters are currently globaling people with Rapid Fire.
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“Nobody played necrolord anyways.”
Sorry but LOL.
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And Feigh Death will no longer remove anything, but magic, so gl wining against any dot class now.
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I been keeping an eye on the forums weather i should buy DF and play MM. I am thankful I have yet to buy DF. I like playing MM hunter. Ever since Legion MM has been trash. The best thing I can do is denied blizz my money till MM is good and fun to play.
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It’d be nice to see aspects back like warriors got stances
aspect of the hawk- damage increase
aspect of the iron hawk- damage reduction
aspect of the fox- aimed shot while moving
stuff like that would help
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No, they’re not. Not for a while now since pre-patch. We’re wildly undertuned.
Source - 300 games as MM in 304 gear
I’ve been doing a lot of Solo Shuffle and BGs lately and constantly seeing MM Hunters global people with Rapid Fire. It’s not as common as Evoker one-shot Fire Breaths, but it happens fairly often.
Only happens vs afk players. I can press riptide once and negate a double tap go
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MM has problems… But uninterruptable cast times and 1.5 second casts is not the issue. Your uninterruptable casts is your pro lol no need to juke or worry about interrupts from locking you out from dps.
And unmitigated double tap RF with, DC debuff, Badge and Blood Fury will only do about 60% of a clothies health. Strong? Yes? One shot? No and in fact it is almost the complete opposite.
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Hard casting aimed shot sucks balls. The spec is designed such that you have to get EVERY aimed shot you can possibly get off, or your DPS is in the dumpster. The problem with that is that the cast time is so long, that even if you’re midway through the cast, if a mechanic spawns under you, you need to move and stop the cast.
Look at the dragon soul MM spec. You cast Chimera shot on CD, and then you did two rotations of a focus cost shot and two steady shots for focus gen in between the cooldowns. If you could stand still, you cast Aimed shot to spend. if you had to move you cast arcane. Aimed WAS better, but not so much better that your DPS suffered really hard when you had to cast arcane. Chimera was your big deal. add to that your free cast Aimed shots from LnL and you had a rewarding experience.
Now, every missed aimed shot is crippling, and the devs are trying to balance the DPS around “how hard does this shot have to hit, given they have to cancel its cast one in four attempts”. It’s awful.
To the people that weren’t around back then, just think back to legion, especially antorus. Once you got the right legendaries and the right amount of gear, MM with marked shot felt great. You weren’t so reliant on Aimed shot for your damage, you could cast it when you had a second to stand still for boosts, or you got a free cast now and then.
The Devs need to give up on this “Build the spec around aimed shot” thing. It feels terrible, and it’s harder to balance.
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Hunters are already glass cannons in PVP. Come DF, we are toast unless there is a big re-work… we get it having to stand still makes kiting harder and dps is bad currently but our self healing sucks which is equally important.
We need exhilaration to heal 30% at 30 sec CD and we need our base damage reduction spells and aspect spells reduced to 1.25 min at least. Leech needs to be reverted and un-nerfed for hunters so we can use our mend ability to give our pet a heal and ourselves a small heal dot depending on our leech and hunters just need a passive regenerate that heals us like 2% every second and gives us a base 5-10% leech to all damage that stack with pet and armor leech.
Id also love it if they brought back Reforging but you just spend gold at a Reforging vendor to have a minor stat changed or added if none at more cost and stat and cost will depend on Item level of the gear and they can eventually add it to enchanting profession. That way we be able spec into Leech, avoidance or speed onto our gear depending on our playstyle and not have to grind for the random minor stats in dropped gear.
They need to DRASTICLY reduce Cheetah aspects’ CD
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Totally agree it skipped my mind since our main defense is disengage and running away it needs be 1.25 min base down from 3min and if they keep born to be wild as a talent it can be reduced by 15 sec to a 1min CD.
that’s true, any good pvp hunter was venthyr. Which exception to the niche NL MM one shot builds
For Arenas, yeah that was sort of mandatory. For BG’s, I found fleshcraft super useful, especially when you unlocked the soulbind to cast it while moving. The shield could get pretty big, big enough to be the deciding factor on whether you survived a fight or went back to the GY. It’s saved my life so many times that I found that getting the extra damage from flayed shot wasn’t worth it to me in pug BG’s.
I think if you were doing RBG’s with an optimized group, then flayed shot gets valuable again. Or if you have a pocket healer with you etc. But I run solo, and fleshcraft was life. Now it’s gone, rip.
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Mending bandage will still be played into assa and feral. Will be fine. I’m more worried about spriest and lock since you will start getting penalized for feigning their dots off.