To me what’s also really bad is that when you get the bow it now makes your DPS strongly dependent on attacking the same target and not target swapping…
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Not even worth playing BM without the Bow to be honest.
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Devs probly gonna be like " we see that the bow is making hunters do more than intended so we decided to remove all it’s effects’
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Yes it’s sucks that it’s so dependent on the bow. But it’s not that rare to get. I got the bow first boss kill. I’ve since got the heroic bow in the vault. I’ve seen tons of people get the heroic bow from the mythic chest weekly quest. And seen people get it from the timewalker chest. You can do Lfr and get it from that, as well as your vault.
Again your experience is just that…yours. statistics say otherwise. Theres ppl who clear heroic but dont beat rasz. So they get 3 heroic slots filled but even though you kill normal rasz it doesnt count for vault. I could skip all heroic with the guild and just fill 3 slots with normal but im not a prick like that.
Hunters who beat heroic rasz are sitting mythic progression just so they have 3 heroic slots and 0 mythic slots. Some guilds are sitting their hunters for the same reason. It encourages degenerate behavior and henerally feels bad.
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Why even make such a misinformed post? It’s entirely RNG. You’re basically telling people to get better dice rolls.
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This is what we call viewing the world through our own lens. It’s a bad habit.
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Not only does RNG just hate some people, the design of the game for alternatives is terrible. I’ve tried to have a BotDH crafted for several weeks, but couldn’t find anyone that could make it with embellishments. Why? Because they have to spec into it and there are better money making options other than bows.
I got tired of waiting and used the Spark I had to create a cloak. Figured this week I would get a spark from quest and then they would just drop, then I’d have two to have the bow crafted. Now I know of someone that can craft the bow, but no bottled essence to be found.
I’ve seen them drop repeatedly for other people, but nothing for me. So far this week - 22 raid bosses, 21 M+ keys, dozens of rares, hundreds of dirt piles/chests/packs - nothing. Meanwhile, I’ve watched as my undergeared friend, who got Neltharax from the timewalking reward, has looted three.
If the folks in charge at Blizzard think this type of RNG is fun, I wouldn’t doubt if they also think the lines at Disneyland are more fun than the actual ride.
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This bow is essentially a purple legendary for BM. Hated it in Shadowlands, hate it now
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Can I even roll need on this in LFR if I have a 418 crafted bow?
probably not since your bow has a superior ilvl, maybe put it in bank and run lfr with a cheap green weapon
i have seen the evoker staff drop twice and i have only 3 normal raz kills, i am in a new guild and i have been raiding for the first time since icc was current content, and i am lucky cause i am the only hunter in my guild for now
Correct me if I’m wrong but there was another post where someone said they got the heroic bow WITHOUT killing rasz on heroic (only on normal) from the vault.
Someone else said they got heroic Spiteful Storm from the vault again without having AOTC, which drops from rasz.
Think it was someone in this thread actually, Cognition
You would think after the Legion Legendary debacle or the BFA corruption debacle or the rogue Sylvanas dagger debacle . . .
Never mind
Edit:
I think having such items in the game isn’t a problem.
It is actually good, because you really want it and it gives you something to look out for. It’s just the entire raid gearing is very very outdated.
Raidgear like M+ should be upgradeable so you don’t have to refarm the same item up to 3 times. They identified this problem in M+. Beats me how they can’t see it in raiding.
You killed Raz Heroic? You can upgrade your lfr bow to heroic ilvl now (however that works).
Would keep all difficulties relevant and you could have up to 4 goes per item if you wanted in a given week.
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May the RNG gods be on your side on Tuesday.
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i mythic raid and am 2/8M cause we are just casual f&f non hardcore pushers. my wife collects herbs. i have normal raz bow. she has heroic 418 raz bow. i got mine from killing raz. she got hers from me carrying her through the df dungeon weekly event cache a few weeks back.
but i am happy for her. she deserves it. she plays the game twice as much as me and works 3 times as hard. she grinds out rep, professions, helps everyone that she can. she works on all the achievements and everything the xpac has to offer. she just dont push m+ or raid. she hates dealing with other people and likes to play her way.
as far as i am concerned she deserves that bow not only more than me, but anyone else i ran across so far in game.
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Balancing a class based on a “very rare” loot drop is terrible. I’d rather see the bow property nerfed by -75%, and just give all hunters a +10% damage increase. The property on the bow should just be a minor bonus if we happen to ever get one.
I bet blizzard also expects us to have avoidance roll on every piece of rng loot as well.
Blizzard: "BM dps is fine… just get lucky and get a bow that has a 1.4% drop rate."
Blizzard: "Hunter defense is fine… just roll avoidance on every piece of gear you find."
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Same. And it frustrates me to no end that they did this a SECOND TIME… and the dps difference is even worse now.
I still say, special items like this should have a token and quest system. You get 1 “part” from ras each week. After 4 weeks you can “build” your bow in a little mini-questline, and then you have it.
Oh wait, that actually sounds like a good idea… my bad, we can’t have that.
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Season 4 Dinar system was by far the best loot system in the game. Absolutely loved it. Took you about 3 weeks just to get a Normal raid item of your choice, and was upgradable to different difficulty levels as long as you killed 10 raid bosses of that difficulty. Nothing was free, but could be earned over the course of a month.
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This is why I liked the Dinar system in SL but tweak it. We couldn’t just buy the Sylvanas bow, but you could upgrade it if you had a nonfated one to fated normal, then you could upgrade it to heroic or mythic if you had enough of the heroic or mythic gear upgrades(can’t remember what they were called).
If Blizz did something like that, where you could buy the piece of gear and then upgrade it with the tokens you get from killing heroic and mythic bosses, I think that would make things easier. I’d argue for some tokens for normal to upgrade stuff from lfr to normal.
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I totally forgot I can’t get it from the vault now because we’re 7/8 Heroic working on Rasz so it’s not even eligible. We have another BM Hunter in our group and I’m seriously considering swapping to MM so I can just craft myself Ol’ Smoky and be done with it. This way, at least, if the bow does drop it’ll just be a pleasant surprise instead of an item my entire spec hinges on.