Honestly, it should be way more important for them to make marksmanship work in rated PvP. It’s the only spec that actually does its damage with ranged weapons. If you listen to the community, not just hunters, people don’t want to play bm and they don’t want to play against BM. Marks is supposed to be the higher skillcap spec where you have to plant and cast and rely on setting up more. They have wasted so much of the power budget on things like sniper shot that give really situationally overpowered win conditions in content that doesn’t matter and then spec suffers in the rest of the game because of it.
They need to make all 3 specs work. MM is a mess right now though I’ll give you that. Go against any double melee right now as MM and you better hope your partners peel for you or you’re toast. A healer just can’t keep up
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Oh for sure. It legitimately feels easier to live on my ele sham than marks hunter. Ele is squishy too, but you have things like stoneskin totem, infinite frost shock roots, static field totem, earth shield passive healing, etc.
Hunter feels like it really needs a short cooldown wall like rogue feint. Craven kinda sorta fit that role before but also was polarizing because it literally removed everything on you which is situationally overpowered in and of itself. They could change survival tactics to reduce feign cooldown and give a smaller wall for 4-6 seconds instead of a 99% wall for a global.
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Been trying to see if I could make MM work up to 1800 in solos. Granted I haven’t really touched it since the season started but I got damn close. Those melee right now though man doesn’t matter what I do even a preservation can’t keep me up in the end. I go about 50/50 against these comps. I’ve tried messing around with the talent trees and everything. I personally haven’t been able to make it work as of yet. Might try some more tonight just for the hell of it.
Warhammer had a great archer spec. The shadow warrior and it had 3 stances. Melee had low damage but it had a parry ,slows, bleeds, and stuff to help get it out of melee range. Then it had skirmisher? Which was a mid range mid damage shoot on the run had some slows and stuff to get it to the range of its 3rd stance. I dont recall its name sharpshooter maybe but it was looooong range stand still long cast time shots that did huge artillery raining damage if left unchecked. It had a way to deal with combat at diferent ranges current marks you flop around but you cant get away so you try and pop off some aimed shots with 2 melee using your rectum as a sock puppet
I have wasted a lot of time on shuffle. All of my relevant experience (1800-2200 over the last few expansions just casually playing) is with two very specific comps that play a certain kind of way. Part of that is the fact that hunter hasn’t worked outside of jungle and to a lesser degree cupid and thug, so it feels like everyone else playing stuff that isn’t specifically ret or feral, and a ret or feral who has also played jungle or cupid is playing wrong. Obviously that’s not always the case, I should not expect dk or mage players to know how to play with me any better than I know how to play with them. But I think that might be a common theme with other previous 1800-2200 hunters. I also cannot express to you how often warrior/dh/dk/ww players see intim on the enemy healer and take it as a signal to swap and mess up my setup. Or like just not knowing/caring that cleave and dot damage is going to break tar and steel trap roots. I got to a certain point where trapping felt so meaningless because of how often I had to overextend and how often the shuffle lobbies would mess up traps anyway that I just started using diamond ice as a melee peel.
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sv is too dependant on coord assault used in conjunction with spearhead to do any impactful damage-- that a long cd for pvp.
CA and SH when used individually arent tuned to match the rest of the classes in the game damage.
Im nsit sure what they did, but it seems that SV damage is down from SL in comparison to how other classes perform.
Was wild bombadier that impactful to burst?
warhammer had manyother classes too that were mechanically superior to anything here.
My favorites are the Disciple of Khain and Warpriest. I really loved the mechanic to do damage and have the damage i dealt translated into healing who my target of target was.
Feral and ret peel and off heals has been keeping hunter afloat for over almost a decade
Most mmos have better class design compared to wow. I hate mage style classes but the bright wizard was a joy to play
He probably has skilled friends that don’t mind queing with a weaker spec unlike all the other elitists. You try to find a 2200+ group in Lfg instant decline.
I’ve been an 1800-1900 Hunter since BFA. Seen some sets I really liked and seen Hogx the only BM getting glad making it happen so I pushed myself to get the sets then just kinda stopped there. With solo I wanna see how high I can go. My 3s team isn’t a nice comp like Jungle or anything but we have fun together even though we can only meet once a week due to our irl schedules. I dunno how high I’ll get maybe I’ll only be able to get to 2k but I just wanna see ya know?
Not really sure what his partners mindset was I have him on Real ID but he’s been playing with them for a long time. He’s really a nice guy.
hunter doesnt need any changes atm. its about as balanced as it can get.
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Yeah hog is as good as they come. I haven’t spoken to him in a while either but he and I are fairly close to the same age. He’s a vet too.
Probably a very hot take from me, but I don’t think hunters genuinely need to be buffed as we have the proper utility and damage output. The issue is other classes having the answers to every single situation.
ill say it again. HUNTERS ARE BALANCED. THEY ARE AS BALANCED AS YOU CAN GET IN THIS GAME. WE DONT NEED ANY BUFFS… /THREAD /THREAD
…I’m agreeing with you. Why are you shouting at me? 
i apologizze
LOL then melee proceed to melt the hunter in 3 sec, Hunters need one more disengage to keep up with melee uptime and some actual def abilities that ARE NOT 2.4 min
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