Yeah mm is the topic of choice for hunters but once that gets tuned pets will hold the class back ridiculously hard, the 4 second res on top of pets dying to a few attacks makes it way too easy to shut down hunter pets. They need a survivability increase at the same time they inevitably tune MM’s damage or survival/bm will not function at all. MM doesn’t need the pet for its core gameplay otherwise mm would be having similar issues atm
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Yeh something needs to change regarding pets, either give us 2s rez back or give us tools to keep it alive, im holding exhil for my pet these days lol
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I quit my hunter that I played since vanilla over the anticipation of this change. It’s bullcrap. Feel your pain hunter brothers and sisters.
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Yup sending in my wet noodle dies almost instantly. Even with defense cd like matrix does nothing might as well rename them gummy bear cause they are squishy!
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Maybe you should learn to not have 100% of time your pet on /petattack.
I support to have more defensives/hp/anything on pets to them not die just on 2 spells, but i’m against 2 sec re-summon. If pet dies, it should be hard to have it alive again. Hard, not impossible of course.
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If you watch some of the top hunters streaming, it’s nothing to do with not having decent pet control. They are just too easy to die at this point.
Pets dying too easily essentially gimp BM/Survival to the point of being unviable.
Pretty silly to preach otherwise at this point 
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Pets are pretty squishy rn, if they tune em I just hope they don’t make them entirely immortal.
I played surv a couple days ago and my pet with mend pet on it was literally dropped in seconds by a chillstreak from a DK going after the druid on my team. We are not asking them to make pets immortal we just don’t want them to die to stupid crap like that when we are maintaining mend pet on the pet. Either make them tankier or give us better tools to keep them from dying like that. As far as BM goes I have noticed the use of Devilsaurs for the leech effect not entirely sure how that will be for them but I have it set up to experiment more tomorrow with.
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Who think 4s ress was a good idea?
Pick one, you can’t have both
Ress 4 seconds
Pet dying fast through mend pet
I’d prefer a somewhat tanky but not immortal pet, and having to actually try to res the pet so it’s rewarding to kill a hunters pet.
Shouldn’t be squishy as a critter and 4 sec res time though.
Suggestion, make pet resist do AOE damage 95%.
In order to kill pet you have to target him.
Could have both realistically if we had more tools to keep them alive. Mend pet kind of sucks.
I understand that but you should also understand that not having the pet attacking is a huge dps loss.
Well, being kicked is a bigger dps loss, and that’s something other range have had to deal with since… forever.
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You understand that a 4 sec cast time is wayyy different than 2 sec spell casts right, and that if a mage is kicked they get to continue casting 4 sec later, but a hunter who gets kicked still has a dead pet 4 sec later
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That seems like a fair trade off considering you have to expend a few resources to kill a hunter pet, especially if the hunter is doing a good job micromanaging it. Your damage is never completely halted like casters are.
Moreover, you can still use defensives. Most of the time, if a caster gets kicked, we can’t use defensives either.
You don’t have to spend resources at all to kill a hunter pet I swear you are trolling at this point. Others have said in this thread that they have been micromanaging it but it dies anyway to random cleave that isn’t even targeting them. Dillon has mentioned this in tweets and he is a way better hunter than I am and I will probably never hit his level of pvp prowess. If this was a Hunter just being bad and not applying mend pet then that is one thing but its not at all.
My hunters pet will randomly die in skirms sometimes. I really don’t think the enemy is even targeting it. It’s not a slow rot either. It’s like 1 second it’s fine with mend pet on it then 3 seconds later I notice it’s dead and the enemy doesn’t even notice until I start trying to rez it lol.
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What do you mean by “random cleave?”
As Survival my pet has been killed by cleaves with mend pet on it while they were attacking my partner. My favorite was when I went to freedom my priest in a 3v3 skirm and with mend pet on it the thing just died. It was literally two seconds almost a gcd. They were not even targeting him they were on my priest partner. This is why I don’t play Surv in pvp right now. EDIT: Here is a recent tweet by Dillon talking about the pet issue. https://twitter.com/Dilly_WoW/status/1334079826559463425 In one sentence