Bruh, Druid is basically just “here are basic rotational abilities back from retail”. None of them are fun or game changing at all. The meta trio and Shaman are the only ones who really got anything “fun” Shaman just because of the new role, and the meta trio because they didn’t have anything runes needed to fix to simply be playable.
I’d also argue hunter getting a disarm is pretty cool, and possibly fun.
So you dont play hunter. Got it.
It already scaled with ap.
They raised its BASE DAMAGE by 25%
Which resulted in about 9 more danage per ES.
I think there is definitely an argument to be made that if the overall damage of the pet is going to be reduced, then kill command should receive a buff to compensate and act as the spike damage for the pet.
more like, you spent half the day using eyes of the beast and now that they nerfed it your eyes turned to cries.
I have used eyes of the beast specifically to get the pet out of bugged spots. I have never used it to gank people. (I am on a pve server because that is where others i play with chose to go)
You have made it clear you dont play hunter with all the incorrect information you have been saying on runes.
I personally think all 3 Druid runes I’m running are more fun than anything I get on Hunter. Free Wraths so I can actually do PvE/PvP dmg without trolling myself, Starsurge is the same. Wild Growth is huge when we have no real high healing instant casts right now.
Also most classes runes are just abilities from Retail, that doesn’t make them not fun. The Hunter toolkit in WoTLK is way more fun and interesting than in Classic, unfortunately the arena meta was trash so I stopped playing it. I wouldn’t mind having WoTLK/Retail abilities added to Hunter at all.
What are you even talking about dude. Serpent spread is the absolute worst rune they gave us. Serpent sting doesn’t scale, it’s only use is to break rogue stealth.
it scales, just not with our preferred stat. we’re not talking pvp either. it’s a pve rune through and through.
im not saying i wouldnt trade it in for kill shot, but you guys are ridiculously entitled and whiny. hunter runes have been cool so far. some need some power tweaks, like most classes runes do. it’s obvious most of you literally cant and havent stepped away from your BM rune auto AI damage rune. And now that’s it’s nerfed you have no idea what to do or how to play hunter and literally reroll run to another meta class.
Serpent spread needs to change serpent sting to attack power scaling as well, or something like that. Its definitely turbo trash right now.
It scales just not with any of the stats on your gear
you just wait. im gonna roll on the staff.
Hunter runes have been cool?
They are extreamly weak versions of what we had from retail in most cases. And most of them have trash to 0 scaling.
Many hunter runes are designed on the assumption that the base ability they modify is good. And they arent.
Serpent spread would be strong is serpent sting was actually any good. Currently you only use serpent sting if you know you can spare the mana and global cd. You stop using it if the boss wont die before you run out of mana because it is more dps to not use it if it means you get 1 more multi shot off.
I have explained why serpent spread is trash.
Now lets keep going shall we?
Lone wolf is trash because it is a massive utility and dps loss and the dps buff doesnt even cover the loss of damage from losing the pet. This ru e is currently a dps loss vs having NO RUNE AT ALL
Sniper training is trash because it takes 6 seconds to get the buff, it falls off instantly on the slightest movement, and it only effects ability critical hit, not auto shot, which is the majority of hunter damage.
Cobra strikes is weak because it requires a crit to make the pet crit and by the time hunters have reliable crit chance the pet criting will be laughable damage as it wont be impactful and again, it only works on shot critical hits.
Kill command only works with claw and bite now and is a 1 minute cd. That equates to it being around a 3 dps ability. Flanking strike beats that without getting a single reset.
Speaking of flanking strike, how of its power budget goes into buffing mongoose bite. An ability with 0 scaling and currently does 25 damage, but wait theres more! Mongoose can only be used after the hunter dodges an attack… and then the 20% chance on reset with 10 seconds duration means getting 2 stacks is very luck based and 3 is like winning the lottery. The strongest part of this ability is getting an auto attack from the hunter and pet. One auto attack. And thats usually on a 30 second CD unless there is a lucky reset. And raptor strike is still 6 second CD on next auto attack, so you only get 2 chances to get a reset per buff duration.
Master marksmens main flaw is it shares a spot with lion.
Lion is our best rune and its entirely passive.
And now EVERY hand rune has been nerfed into oblivion or sucked from the start (hi carve!)
Chimera shot does a little more damage than an auto shot because it has 100% weapon scaling and does 40% of serpent stings damage (which has no scaling and is trash
Explosive shot has 12% rap scaling divided into all 3 ticks. It isnt a horrible rune if there is constantly 5+ targets, but thats competing vs 2 single target runes and will almost never be used in pvp and raid pve. I suppose it has a use if you are farming a massive amount of mobs that is 10+ levels under you, but thats about it.
Carve has the same issue as explosive shot, and its limited to melee range. AND somehow costs MORE mana (0.5% base mana more)
And then we have the bm rune. The best option in the teir even after the nerfs and forces the powerful pet playstyle of do 10-15% less damage. The only time its viable to change out to chimera shot is if the fight will be so short you will have the mana to use abilities with 0 care for mana management. And as a note, the reason bm rune is any good to begin with is because they have hunter pets some stat scaling from the hunter stats. Without that this rune would have been trash as well because it is the pet abilities having rap scaling that nearly doubles their base damage output before talent or rune modifiers and the extra focus regen does more for improving the pets damage than the 20% damage does.
Hunter runes are a mess. The fact the class is naturally strong at this level range and the adding of pet scaling is what has been holding this class up.
any amount of real $$ my BM huntard and all its nerfs vs your MM hunter
He cant. He doesnt have a hunter. He already proved that by calling serpent spread good.
If he played a hunter he would have realized how bad it was.
well, that’s just your opinion.
if you’re legit, then 10k. and you, not your friend, not some buddy. you.
No, its how the runes actually work in practice.
You clearly dont play hunter because you actually think serpent spread is good.
It looks good on paper, until you realize it has a max target of 3, a 10 second CD and serpent still will have no scaling so its damage will be very very minimal. And thats ignoring how it interacts with chimera shot useage…
it’s literally meta for 5mans. you’re just bad and likely run bm and your pet literally plays the game for you. no wonder you’re having a brainmelt about the nerf.
k, which server.