Hello Community and Devs,
Just want to preface that there’s already been great feedback and thoughts of concern surrounding Hunter so far from TWW, and yet I still feel so compelled to speak up as someone from the silent majority. Long time Hunter player in high rated PvP, m+, and AOTC Raider.
First off: There’s a clear need for spec reworks for SV and MM. Both of these specs feel band-aided together and completely flat. Would love some of the great reworks coming to the other classes make its way to Hunter. Or at least some communication on this.
Mainly I want to give feedback on my concern with the Hero Talents, especially thematically.
Dark Ranger (Should be SV/MM)
This tree doesn’t fit BM at all and needs to swap with Survival in Sentinel. Black Arrow works as a cornerstone to this tree, but too many of the nodes will cause overcapping of Aimed Shot and Barbed shot.
I think this tree could play more on this theme of dark ranger by introducing community “wants” like (PLEASE) allowing SV to have the option of playing ranged. While allowing MM to make use of damage filling rotational abilities like proc Explosive or chimera shot from the spec tree. Or some type of play on pet specialization and exotic pets.
Pack Leader Tree (SV/BM)
Should be inspired by Rexxar. The Shadow Hounds talents from Dark Ranger should be moved here to at least breathe in some life. Again, play on the theme and give SV the option to (PLEASE) Dual Wield here with some incentive. Den Recovery should be baseline to the class. I think the capstone and signature ability should be Stampede or a play on the spell. As it’s a dead talent in the spec tree and fits the theme.
Sentinel Tree (Should be BM/MM)
This tree needs a lot of design rework imo, but I don’t have a lot of ideas. Thematically I get the idea, but the passiveness of sentinel and its effects are lackluster. Maybe replace this with Murder of Crows and design it to do more damage faster within execute (this used to be in the game) along with %chance of more crows based on rotational procs. . I think lunar storm can stay, but maybe it should be a choice node for aoe or ST. Otherwise it makes it way too niche as a capstone.
Overall, very appreciative of the Devs recently and direction of the game for PvP (fix MMR tho) and pve. Looking forward to Hunter changes.
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You’re living in the past - it really doesn’t matter Black Arrow used to belong to Survival. I’d honestly prefer if they scrapped dark ranger all together as all the hunter tree seem very lackluster. Packleader has some potential to synergise with Survival’s CA but the tree is broken on alpha and people want the visual clutter of another pet that will hit like a wet noodle due to balancing for Pack Leader. Sentinal is just a passive arcane DoT with reused Sentinal Owl visuals and some old lv 10 priest talent visual.
If Blizzard got anything right, it’s Sential’s defense which I’d prefer to keep on survival as an extra layer of leech/DR. MM doesn’t get the benefit of extra HP from a pet so it seems good for them too. Pack Leader’s defense is still absolutely terrible as rot damage generally falls on the healer and that forces pretty much anyone doing competitive content to play Sentinal for Survival. Plus Survival already takes advantage of leech making Den Recovery further useless.
I’d prefer if they just replaced Black Arrow with Whaling Arrow, removed its cast time, made it the hero talent note (as underwhelming as that is to some) and either replaced the existing Whaling Arrow node with Flayed Shot or replaced Barrage with Flayed Shot. Assuming they’re sticking with Dark Ranger and they likely are given their lack of plans and general direction for Hunter currently.
As I mentioned in several other posts, Blizzard has plenty of great ideas posted throughout the forums. They just need to filter through the pointless arguing and bickering and implement them.
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Why? Modern SV is not a ranged spec, whereas Dark Rangers’ melee weapons basically never went beyond the decorative in function.
Arguably, only Pack Leader particularly fits modern SV thematically, but Dark Ranger is the hero spec that would make the least sense for SV to have.
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I’ve definitely seen more dark rangers in melee than I have dark rangers with pets lol
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all (or almost all) of the melee dark rangers in hillsbrad have spider pets btw
and then nathanos also uses pets 
I agree with this, personally always felt like dark ranger should of been its own class or a rogue 4th spec with dagger|Bow\shadow\death magic
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Honestly I was super stoked to find out hunters were getting a Sentinel Hero Talent Tree.
What I got instead was a talent tree entirely dedicated to passives without any notable visual effects until 80. An entire talent tree dedicated to one single DOT effect which you have no control over. Sure its good reliable damage but my goodness this is exceptionally lame when you compare it to literally everything else
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Buff BM AoE, that’s all I need
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the only reason i didnt buy the expansion im tired of seen hunter being left a side, i wont play whatever devs decide is the flavor of the expansion i want to play what i want to play…
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I’d rather be able to choose multishot for cleavinng first then choose if I want to have two pets over the one while going down the talent tree.
Oh well.
Everyone I know says they aren’t playing Hunter this expansion.
I have been playing hunter since vanilla. BM since it appeared. Got to 80 in this expansion and that’s it. Absolutely NO AOE BM is a joke and not a funny one
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