Hello,
I’m thinking of rerolling to hunter. I adored old survival, particularly during WoD. It was such a satisfying mobile, ranged dot spec.
With serpent sting back for everyone and ways to buff bleed damage in the talents, how impactful would you say your dots are? Bleeds, poisons, explosive dots, etc.
Thanks for your help!
You have the ability to micromanage some of your dots by spreading around your Aimed Shot targets, but really the dots tend to only equate to 2% of your damage each talent. They are significantly lower overall than all your other abilities.
Yikes! Hunter is a mess, but i still find it fun enough to mess around with.
Explosive is really fun in PvP especially when someone is at 5% health and they run away and you can’t get a KS off and they explode. Other DOTS like bleeds and SS are a small percentage of the damage done usually.
He’s, asking for survival, not marksman.
More than MM and BM at least.
You get serpent sting and can apply it with Mongoose with a talent.
You get wildfire bomb that has a DoT component.
Explosive shot isn’t a DoT unfortunately.
You can get bleed on your crits.
Steel trap, although they nerfed its damage.
Spearhead makes your mongoose apply a DoT.
Coordinated Assault can make your kill shot apply a DoT and usable at any health %>
Wildfire infusion is somewhat a synergy with your DoTs.
Kill command can also get a DoT.
It’s not affliction lock, but a good percentage of Survival damage profile can be done through DoTs, although most of it still come from direct damage.
i preferred the mop verison specifically 5.4 mop of survival. wod was really good as well with exotic munitions and all that newly added multi strike. but regardless both versions were 1 trillion times better than the laughable melee spec that it is now.
cant wait until they finally decide to revert it back.
Cheers to that! I mean at LEAST give us black arrow back. So sad that one of the biggest staple of old survival still hasn’t found its way back. And wailing arrow definitely doesn’t count.
Ooooh, thanks! I was at the end of my day when I saw the question but no replies, so I hopped in. I missed that it was directed at SV.
I actually didn’t mean it to be directed at survival! I only mention that I liked OLD RANGED survival, which is very much gone. So any of the 3 works for me!
Does can BM, MM, or Survival have a satisfying dot feel?
One of my favorite things to do is dot a million things in the open world and run them out/aoe them down. My first max level was a priest in WotLK and that’s exactly what I did lol - dot, dot, dot, bubble, heal, heal, wand, wand. But I’m not too big on the priest lore anymore. Hunter is more my speed!
I believe the short answer here is: no.
Yeah, ill add to it, but short answer is no.
BM might get a little dot damage with barb shot and master marksman passive, but its just more or less pad damage/sustian damage added to kit. BM doesnt even use SS, gives up too much for it.
MM uses SS, but you honestly dont even think about it, its passively applied and you forget its there. Its very low % of your damage. the master marksman passive again, and deathblow killshot dot is nice, but its not a “dot” playstyle. Just some dots added to your playstyle.
Surv is more of the “dot” spec and its despite it having a lot of dots, its not really based around your dots. Not like old surv. You have single target build with spearhead trying to build a big dot in a small window. You have killshot build (can be aoe, niche aoe build) that applies a nice bleed when you killshot. Kill command does a small dot. Your SS does more then other specs thanks to ranger talent. Wildfire bombs are very undertuned at the moment and do lackluster dot damage. They too have master’s markman passive. But the way the damage is weighted, its all around that goose damage, not your dots, they are just the extra fluff. So not a satisfying dot playstyle atm.
So tldr: no.
I only play bm so my opinion only counts to that and the short answer is No
Every dps spec has some kind of dot abilities and that’s where bm is at but only a few like shadow or affliction are really built around spamming dots and layering different ones etc.
They said with it back for everyone (including BM and MM) and their title is “Hunter Dots?” not “SV Dots?”
It was very clear OP wasn’t asking about SV only (they even confirm such).
They need to remove colored text for people from the WoW community, it gives them a sense of entitlement even when they have no clue what they’re talking about.
OP - Hunter DoTs are super passive. The only real satisfying one is Explosive Shot. With that said, MM + Salvo = big explosive shot fun.
When people list “DoT specs” I still wouldn’t put Hunter in the list.
Balance + Feral
Affliction
SPriest
Edit: Forgot Assass Rogue and UH DK too. 
Hunter is like Arms warrior. Has bleeds. Has the ability to buff them. But it’s not the bleeds that kill you. It’s the Aimed Shots, Kill Commands, etc.
I would properly add Asn rogue to DoT spec too
WOD survival was so fun. I remember being super mobile and the types of damage you could land were great. I miss it.
That said, it’s not a dot spec. It has some but you should be doing most of your damage with direct.
At 390 ilvl, I’m routinely getting 100k plus mongoose bites. At 35% crit, I’m wondering if killshot is sometimes a dps loss over a 5 stack kill command buffed mongoose bite. some crazy damage.
Sv dots are very small part of damage profile, but they are great when you go out of melee range
Yeah, at 411 ilvl using potion + puzzle box, I can get upwards to 180k goose crits. Killshots if running CA over spearhead with same things proc’d can do 120-130k crits with the 50% of the damage as bleed from talent.
SS, KC dot, wildfire bomb dot…are doing much, much lower then that.
In single target they are ok, in aoe they are very noticeable. In aoe the longer the fight goes, thanks to hyrda and serrated shots serpent sting only performs better giving sv a nice mix of both burst and steady aoe.