imagine how much infinitely healthier pvp would be if you could just simply interrupt mm hunter casts and lock them out. instead of them just getting to stand still and do whatever they want and crank out broken dmg because every time you look at them “oh fiegn, kekw” like, if they had low dmg, sure, i guess unkickable casts would be sorta okay, but you cant have broken dmg that cant be kicked. you have any idea just how toxic that 1 single thing alone made SL pvp??? not to mention the countless other crap in it. people raised holy freakin hell about warlocks being unkickable with that resolve trinket but yet MM hunters been there the entire time casting aimed shots that basically always hit harder than chaos bolt and you can never kick them. why arent people mad about that?
dumbest marksman mechanic is being able to 1 shot u through a wall
yeah man, you know someone at blizzard was really like “hey, lets give MM hunters an ability that lets them shoot through a pillar so they cant los our dmg and them make that ability break their dmg even more, surely double 40k aimed shots through a pillar wont hurt anything at all, itll be fine” “oh and lets give them 6k a tick rapid fire channels that also go through a pillar that cant be kicked, thatll also be fine” meanwhile darksoul chaos bolts with madness leggo are literally hitting like 28k - 30k absolute max assuming you ever get to cast them. by the way these games im talking about are at 2.4+ mmr
I’m surprised that wallhacks didn’t make it into the Dragonflight tree.
I’m not, it was about as dumb as thinking hunter is a caster.
you literally are a caster, youre certainly not a melee unless youre surv. MM hunter is 100% a caster. YOU LITERALLY HAVE RANGED CASTED ABILITIES DUDE!!! how you really gonna sit there and say that hunter isnt a caster. your SL hunter brain is actually showing
Bro, I dont know what the “enter” key did to you but it’s time to forgive and move on.
Marksman is a ranged physical damage dealing spec, in order to be a “caster” with a kickable school magic must be used. Kind of the reason disarm works against the spec.
Watching a warlock mald about anything keeps me going.
Watching a warlock mald about MM hunter is hilarious - we get it bro - you finally feel somewhat squishy. Warlocks are wheelchair class of S3.
That’s not a marksman mechanic that’s a kyrian mechanic lol.
Why do people on forums hate hunters so much. Legit my favorite class to fight because you know they are at a disadvantage. Hunter reminds me of S1 DK - killable and easy to shut down while doing good damage if unchecked.
I’m doing top damage every game on my hunter at low CR because people leave me alone. The moment people go my MM my damage drops like a freight truck in the ocean.
Lack of knowledge regarding their mobility and/or damage profile, usually. I feel somewhat vindicated in my dislike of Survival as an Assassination player that enjoys 2v2, though.
Imagine me playing venthyr MM to 2400 this season pre craven nerf in 2s. Survival made me baby rage. Mend bandaid hurt my soul.
However, I don’t feel like 2s is a real mode as Hunters and rdruids are standouts as oppressive.
Super happy craven got nerfed so I branched out to Necrolord on my hunter. Now I legit just 100-0 ppl in a single stun while cross ccing ppl on the run.
Venthyr MM was really fun with 35% haste this season till craven nerf, Necro and Kyrian pulled ahead infinitely now that surging shots is taken often.
you don’t really need anything besides this
2s is more played than 3s, but 3s is more legitimized by rewards, currency gains, depth of gameplay(technically subjective) and recognition by awc. this disconnect between the game the devs are ostensibly making and the game more players are playing helps nobody
This is where disarm comes into play. While you cannot kick a hunter cast (because it’s physical), they are susceptible to disarms ruining their burst. This is the melee equivalent to being “kicked”. A hunter who chooses to trinket disarm would then be susceptible to die in a stun/coil go.
That means you need to select your partners better to round out your comp. WW / MW, War, Rogue, or Boomy are great options to fill that void if you are concerned with MM hunters. Another solid choice is a good Hpal who knows when to properly use BoP.
As always, against any MM hunter you should also be paying attention to double tap and saving an instant CC to peel him while you run LOS. In the case of Kyrian, leave your port/gate in a good position to get as far away as possible and out range them (they are still limited to 40 yards), and after 4 seconds you are safe behind pillars again. That is unless you foolishly step back into the circle.
uh huh with you so far
nope
mm is weird and its modern haters and defenders are both silly groups people, but it’s not a meaningful amount of the games played at any rating or format except random bgs. go to the bg forum to complain about that
just line it
bring back dead zones for hunters
are we back to warlocks have no mobility now?
Nah saying they are disabled and cannot make competent statements. Lock can shut down hunter completely if they just turn on their monitor.
I do feel mm is overtuned on damage under comps like thug where I get free reign to double tap disengage offensively to get traps scatters and then blast the stunned target but many comps mm can just be wd and max ranged on goes.
Mm is def in a b tier spot right now even though their damage is high as they die in pretty much a single limb go or stormbolt with reck. Love facing them on every one of my classes even my hunter as they die so easily.