Humans having a garbage pvp racial is the best thing in classic

sorry to tell you but 2handers are dead items for alliance outside pvp, we don’t get windfury.

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Edgemasters is up to 5k+ on a lot of servers by this point I’d imagine.

Last one went for 6k on my server.

Being a human or an orc is a must if you don’t want to grind that kind of gold and want to do any sort of fury PVE (outside of horde warrior 2h BRE fury). I’d advise any new warrior to go human or orc.

that guys a noob dont mind him

AND WE HATES THEM! For real. Trade Alliance Blood Elves for Dwarves straight up.

I am willing to take the blood elves if you let them be warriors.

Pvp racials are more important than PVE ones. Gnome is the best Warrior. EZ.

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You’re forgetting Aged Core Leather Gloves and daggers exist. I’m sitting at 310 dagger weapon skill. This is a valid option for rogues and warriors. Didn’t have to spend any gold on them either.

Weapon skill for PvE and perception for PvP make humans the ONLY pick for warriors/paladins/rogues. In WOTLK they get Every Man for Himself which makes it a 100% pick for alliance unless youre playing shaman or druid.

Its no different than 90% of horde players being orc because they’re immune to stun.

pvp pallies go dwarf. pve pallies go human.

stoneform is still huge for a pally. the only CC we sit is counterspell.

When humans got every man for himself, it was the most op racial ever

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Aged Core Leather Gloves are a rare drop, some guilds can get multiple thunderfury swords made before they ever see one drop believe it or not.

It also feels like there’s a dagger drought between BWL all the way until C’thun considering Perditions Blade is the best MH dagger until C’thun and Death’s Sting is C’thun’s rarest drop. Perdition’s Blade can also be a rare drop that some guilds barely ever get.

Meanwhile for swords… Dal’Rends set, Vis’Kag, Brutality Blade, Maladath, ZG Offhand, Chromatically Tempered Sword, Ancient Qiraji Ripper… all much more accessible and sword rogues don’t have to wait until their guild has C’thun dead before they get a good AQ upgrade. Human rogues don’t even need Maladath as a crutch the way every other sword rogue does.

One of my main characters is a dagger rogue actually but you have to admit that dagger itemization sucks until Naxxramas.

Ya instead we have thousands of orc/tauren warriors. Great diversity

I see them drop all the time, AND 4 different bosses drop them. The gloves can’t be that rare considering how many people I see with them.

Dragonfang Blade is almost as good as Perdition’s Blade. Yes it’s a rare drop, but it’s an option. Fang of the Faceless is a rare drop, but you can do ZG every 3 days. Gutgore Ripper is decent and drops all the time. The AV rep daggers are also decent for those willing to do that grind.

Yes, dagger itemization sucks, but they don’t have nearly as much competition compared to swords.

If you pvp you are gnome or dwarf for every class except hunter/druid, the two classes allowed to play night elf.

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They’re too frail to be warriors. Hell, they shouldn’t even be allowed to be paladins.

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I mean, you want to go that route we need to take warrior away from some race/genders.

Alliance would be left with: Night elf Female, Dwarf Male.

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That’s just dumb.

My policy during TBC: If it’s red, it’s dead. If it’s a Bloodelf, it’s camped.

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Done. Pleasure doing business with you lol.

I think a lot of people don’t understand how insanely OP human warlock actually is.

Paranoia is. +30 stealth detect
Eng on use goggles is another +30 detect
Human racial perception is another +50 detect.

5 detect is 1 player level of detection

Human locks can stack up to 110+ detect, thats 22 player levels of detection possible, and natively they have 80+ detection being 16 levels.

There is literally no where you can hide from a human lock, they can no kidding see you across the map, and if you’re a resto druid, LOL forget stealth because you may as well pre hot because they’re gonna see ya.

The only advantage we’ll have in TBC is the Draenei racial being group wide, so 1% fewer hit/spell hit chance needed.