Huge nerf to solo/outdoor gear progression in DF Season 1

[Angelicus-faerlina]

@Sambouki-malganis

If it hurts you that terrible endless power grind systems like Titanforging have been removed, then WoW isn’t for you.

Oh so I should just quit, instead of speaking up for what I want? Am I not worthy of providing feedback?

@Sambouki-malganis

The handful of forum trolls and their alts who make posts about “solo players” are apparently a drop in the bucket. That makes a ton of sense though, as people don’t come to MMO’s expecting to play solo and ignore all content except the trivial stuff and expect gear rewards far outside the effort to that content.

This is called marginalization. The opposite is true however. They are the majority of wow players. Raiders are “a” minority.

@Sambouki-malganis

Lmao, so the new qualifier is “you have to control what other people say in this thread full of dumb or you’re bad.”

If your buddy commits a crime, you have a responsibility to report it, OR … you are guilty of the same crime.
That’s how it works here.
Same thing with academic dishonesty policies.
ect ect.

Advocacy, aka defending the weak. Is a virtue. Everywhere from the bible to arthurian legend and probably every hero movie you have ever seen.

And certainly in world of warcraft.

[Marla-westfall]

@Eleusia-myzrael

I asked for Normal raid iLvl, which is what we have in SL now, and still a nerf compared to the Heroic raid iLvl we used to be able to earn.

how do we have normal raid ilvl gear in Shadowlands? Other than the odd world boss loot and that loot used to be heroic ilvl gear.

[Sambouki-malganis]

@Angelicus-faerlina

This is called marginalization. The opposite is true however. They are the majority of wow players. Raiders are “a” minority.

Prove it. Prove this. Prove to me that there are more people playing WoW who are “solo players.”

I’ll wait.

[Sambouki-malganis]

@Angelicus-faerlina

Advocacy, aka defending the weak

Wow. What a delusional take.

[Angelicus-faerlina]

So... you're gonna keep rewarding the 1%?

It’s common knowledge

[Sambouki-malganis]

That isn’t proof lmao.

You’re linking an article that tells everyone what they already know. Less people clear raids than people who do.

Duh.

I said prove to me that “solo players” are the majority of players like you claimed. Prove it.

[Angelicus-faerlina]

As we both know, none of us has access to the hard numbers. Only blizzard does. So demanding more proof than such articles is in bad faith.

I have sufficiently proved it.

[Sambouki-malganis]

@Angelicus-faerlina

I have sufficiently proved

That you’re a low effort forum troll. You can use other sources. Raiderio for example shows that over 10 million keys were run in the opening weeks of s4.

Claiming that solo players in an MMO are anything other than a tiny niche who should be ignored because they ignore giant chunks of content is a bad argument.

[Angelicus-faerlina]

@Sambouki-malganis

That you’re a low effort forum troll.

You lost, so now i’m a troll.

@Sambouki-malganis

Claiming that solo players in an MMO are anything other than a tiny niche who should be ignored because they ignore giant chunks of content is a bad argument.

They should be ignored. … big yikes … like i said.

mar·gin·al·i·za·tion

1. treatment of a person, group, or concept as insignificant or peripheral.

“he worked hard to eliminate social and economic marginalization”

[Sôsari-dalaran]

@Angelicus-faerlina

I have never once seen you rein someone in on your side. Zero times.

They are not my responsibility. We are all adults here. I worry about myself. I have had countless never ending arguments with some of these players “on my side”. Raiimir specifically to the point where I don’t correct him ever. We are just now at a point where we can “like” each others comments and agree with each other once in a while.

[Sambouki-malganis]

@Angelicus-faerlina

You lost, so now i’m a troll.

Claiming victory on the forums is what makes you a troll.

You posted an article that shows people who clear raids are a minority of total players.

Great! This has always been the case in every single MMO that features raiding.

Yes. Solo players should be ignored. Yes. You are a terrible troll. Come back when you can prove your ridiculous claims.

[Angelicus-faerlina]

You can shirk responsibility, I respect your ability to choose. However distasteful the choice is. Do what thou wilt.

@Sambouki-malganis

Yes. Solo players should be ignored. Yes. You are a terrible troll. Come back when you can prove your ridiculous claims.

You seem rather agitated. That’s not doing your blood pressure any favors. Breathe.

[Sôsari-dalaran]

@Angelicus-faerlina

One dude bleeds into the next dude. What do you want me to say.

To answer this part of your question. You can do better by either matching their “energy” and not going above them. If they escalate then you escalate evenly. Just my 2 cents since you asked.

[Angelicus-faerlina]

@Sôsari-dalaran

To answer this part of your question. You can do better by either matching their “energy” and not going above them. If they escalate then you escalate evenly. Just my 2 cents since you asked.

I try … and I wish I was a better person. Adhd impulse control often gets the better of me. Though I am working on it.

[Sambouki-malganis]

@Angelicus-faerlina

You seem rather agitated

And you seem rather unable to provide evidence for your claim that solo players are a majority in WoW.

Still waiting for your proof troll.

[Snozy-thrall]

@Bloodypaws-frostmourne

Looks to me the game is slipping through your fingers.

And as usual you’re completely blind

[Angelicus-faerlina]

Dude! I’m not blind.

I couldn’t resist bloody.

[Snozy-thrall]

@Angelicus-faerlina

It’s common knowledge

It’s an article 7 years out of date and only looks at those completing raids. The number that matters is those participating.

Raid achievements from 9.2 show 60% of the player base has a raid boss killed on any difficulty.

[Angelicus-faerlina]

He’s repeated it a dozen times, this year even.

[Snozy-thrall]

So find a quote from this year then.

Even then point still stands.