You a clear mc fine without either actually. Depends how you define decent. I’ll take an hour an a half clear because people only brought world buffs only , as opposed to a 45 minute car with people being pissy the whole time
Yep this is a normal raid.
And they clear just fine.
World buffs and consumes are not needed.
We looking at the same logs?
About half the raid is purple parsing, and had world buffs.
this was meant to show that any normal group can easily clear MC in a short time without world buffs/consumes? This group looks pretty stacked with sweats.
Nah that’s a fairly normal raid with minor effort. They are just better at using their 3 button rotation than you are
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Last week this would have been a top 50 speed run lol. It isn’t normal
11/40 purple parsed, 2 of those were healer parses for dps
the people are good but the effort they are putting in, is below standard, the raid is at like 9am so they aren’t insanely picky
There is a 0.0% chance you did /2 trade chat group and cleared MC in 44 minutes.
Why even lie about that?
They probably got the world buffs waiting for raid in Org.
It’s not like you click them off if you have them.
You just don’t go out of your way to get them.
the problem is you misunderstood
its a 9am run that recruits people out of trade chat, there is an actual run of like 25 people and the rest gets filled with people from /2
i became a regular by being in trade chat and seeing them spam looking for my class and they invited me to the guild afterwards
He’s a 
Guilds recruit players from trade chat all the time to fill their runs.
I go to mostly guild runs all the time that need a few DPS and we clear under 1 hr.
He doesn’t even play classic and just talks out of his butt on the forums.
So basically you joined a guild that raids with wbs/consumes lol
He said no one was using flasks.
You are mad this content is easy and any guild can clear it without wasting gold on pointless consumes.
i joined a guild that has no requirements, after they pugged me out of trade chat, with no requirements
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Yep, and they clear MC with no problems.
These guys are salty their guild requires them to waste gold on flasks.
That is all that is going on here. Jealousy…
Yep they like to feel 1337 but are some noobs with boons.
Decent guilds don’t require flasks or world buffs beyond those can get waiting in org.
Look at the rag kill parses. This group was well above average.
This was not a normal no consumes, no wb’s trade chat pug raid. Looks like a semi-hardcore sweat guild recruited a few people to fill from trade chat.
Over half the raid had DMT buffs.
MC is a joke and can be easily cleared by clickers without consumes or world buffs. My point is that the log that was linked does not show this.
the log was never meant to show it, i said i go to a 44 minute run that has no requirements, after that someone asked me to link the logs so i did
nowhere did i say “u can clear mc in 44 minutes with clickers and no world buffs” i even said they were good players
the guy who even asked for the logs concluded that only 5 people were fully buffed, and 0 of the casters used a flask, this is not a super sweaty environment by cost per raid standards, the people playing in it are above average
the log isn’t even uploaded to the speedrun category, no one cares, it would be like top 50 right? but its not even listed
Frosst was the one who called this a normal raid. This was not a normal raid.
19 players had songflower, 26 had DMT buffs, and these are mainly warriors and rogues. The reason it was a smooth 44 minute run is because these players were above average and showed up with world buffs.
It just doesn’t seem like a normal no consumes/wb’s required run to me. But if they were filling spots from trade chat and not advertising consumes/wb’s required, I guess it technically is.
Huh? I have 2 60s on dreamscythe and raid twice a week on them with 2 more 48s on the come up.
What are you even talking about?
its not normal, the rl is playing like 20 people’s characters at once and pushing pace, its just a run that doesn’t require the out of raid shenanigans that the guy i was responding to doesn’t like, i have found a run every single week on my other character that are relatively decent like ~1:30 clears and those didn’t require buffs or consumes either
there are plenty of players who are playing who have an appetite for raids that are a middle ground, not terrible, can clear all content quickly and don’t require the piggy bank to be smashed into pieces, instead of going to these runs, the guy came here to complain about his own run that he willingly put himself into
he has the wow classic brain rot “i should really be throwing a dense dynamite at every pack of imps” 
hes gone, its over for him