I called it out weeks ago when people were upset (rightly so) about Shadow Priest.
WW Monk at high levels of content is doing poor DPS. Every single class has a DPS spec that performs better than it in raid. This is not ok.
Why this is an issue:
We scales well in low level raids when everyone is gearing up. WW was top 8 in normal and middle of the pack.
This was clearly too strong so we copped a nerf to our strike of the windlord talents.
Before the changes we were 4th from last in damage and 8th from last in terms of āoverallā.
Big issue is there is a zero sell at the moment for a WW monk wanting to push for anything higher than heroic.
Why does it matter for players who only prog for AoTC or just do normal?
As we gear higher and our damage scales relatively lower in comparison we wonāt get invites unless we are already established.
I know Iām set as a DPS for my Aussie guild and a DPS/fill for my US one but I donāt want new monks to be in a tough spot when the class is probably one of the best spots (playstyle wise) itās been in for a long time.
Reading and relevant links:
replies being like but monks are pumping. Yep week 3 normal raid maybe. Lack of understanding the bigger picture.
Rankings two weeks ago: https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-nerub-ar-palace-dps-rankings-the-war-within-season-1-week-3-347348
idk, at 614 ilvl iām usually top 5 in my heroic raid group on my WW. Thatās good enough for me. Itās a fun class to play after being ranged in that raid group for the last several seasons.
From a personal standpoint I will usually also be in the top 3 for Depraved intent and top 5 for Brainrot (when I DPS). Iām putting aside my own ability to perform and actually seeing how itās like.
Then you can probably see the issue - as more of the group gets gear, yours and mine will be less effective at giving us damage.
Then perhaps your group will start progressing on the first couple of Mythic bosses. It wonāt feel good to know you are getting relatively weaker as you all gear up.
I guess a silver lining of vers still being a good stat makes Mandate work marginally better for us than most classes.
Sorry, Shaman is ahead of the pack in all 3 of its specs for the first time in forever, I canāt encourage Blizzard to touch balancing while weāre like this.
i wish my groups would progress into mythic raiding sometimes. but not all of the people are competent enough for that. in one group we have a lock that always ends up on the floor during almost every fight.
If a class has 3 DPS specs. I can kinda understand if one was the absolute bottom.
For hybrid classes they need to keep an eye out on the tuning of the one DPS spec they have.
E.G Retribution Paladins have eaten super well the last few years.
I started leveling my WW last night. Celestials hero. Itās tremendous fun and hits like a truck so far. It will be interesting to see how it goes. So far their kit seems like it will lend itself very well to delves.
I do have to celebrate Shamans getting a break. I know that for a long time Shamans and Monks communities were essentially the āI love this class but I hate how they treat itā kinds groups.
At the end of the day. Iām still gonna play a Monk regardless of tuning. This post is made largely to hopefully get some eyes on it.
Iām glad to see you joining the WW gang! Celestials from a personal enjoyment perspective I love the most. I think if I get a trinket that aligns with it I will try it out also.
Shamans getting a break. I know that for a long time Shamans and Monks communities were essentially the āI love this class but I hate how they treat itā kinds groups.