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it official I give up blizzard and their writing for horde. Seeing that just really turned me off the game in a major way. Not only does he not have any horde honor. But he openly admits he wanted the other side to take care of his Sylvanas Windrunner. Really he so cowardly that he lets someone else do it. then when told the other side cant do it. He looks well now what.

Why is any horde based player behind this traitor and spineless fool saurfang. He a freaking punch line for the writers. Hate current one and want Sylvanas Windrunner out fine. How is saurfang the alternative to Sylvanas Windrunner and peoples seeing nothing wrong with it. If Saurfang plots and schemes form the shadow he no better than Sylvanas Windrunner. At least she somewhat open about it. Dang at least Sylvanas Windrunner takes them head on or has a horde person do it for her. She at least does not relies on Alliance to do her work for her.

Saurfang is actually worse than Sylvanas. He not only working for Alliance. He openly admits it. Not only that. He does not even try to denied that he lets the boy king. This is just too much even for me.

It sure now make sense how they were able to out maneuver her in legion. Never understood how Genn Greymane new half the things he did. Most of the attacks on her were just too good. I now bet the writers had him slip the info.

You are not true horde players at heart if you except any of this crap being handed to you. Lore on honor an tradition with him is out the door. What left is steaming pile of crap. Lore wise a orc, personal reputation is as important as his or her clan, and most will fight to the death in defense of either. Saurfang has not one once of it of esteem for his name.

Man this sucks. tell how to down vote this video
Yeah I don't wanna work for either. Horde writing is horrible. Guess it'll come down to whatever I feel like when I make the decision in game.
I think it's pointless because even if Anduin and Saurfang take her down, peace between the Alliance and Horde never lasts.
Why is Saurfang being put on the Blizzard pedestal? I don't get it
11/02/2018 03:47 PMPosted by Myracle
Why is Saurfang being put on the Blizzard pedestal? I don't get it

Because he's a cool dude who kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything.
11/02/2018 03:45 PMPosted by Nopainnogain
I think it's pointless because even if Anduin and Saurfang take her down, peace between the Alliance and Horde never lasts.


That really not the point I am making. the point is I want horde to have some sense of honor and a strong War chief with Horde blood and guts type of Honor. yeah I support Sylvanas because tired of revolving war chief door an she a strong character. Saurfang is a week character with no sense of honor.

Is it so hard to actauly give us a strong honorable charecter for the horde. Vol'jin i kind of like. Even though he tried to go against garriosh. Vol'jin still releid on allince. One reaosn i did not mind too much he died. From there on just poor writing. Dont care I just want a good war chief.
Long past time to really start pushing for a TRUE NEUTRAL faction. Take the Pandaren start zone and expand therefrom.

Horde players, I feel for ya! I'm getting sick of grinding out every quest in the book, only to have little orphan andy yank it all away because feels.
We've all been there, this last year: the place where just one swing of our sword or well-placed spell and the faction war is over.
...and now its just more reskins, an aging storyline garrisons 3.0.; all from a few individuals who insist they know what's best for us.

Not looking good, for the home team.
Can't win with you people. The story is either boring, cliche, copy/paste, too far fetched...

I for one am digging the civil war type of thing going on. It's interesting and clearly keeping you people hooked.

See you in 8.1.
11/02/2018 03:51 PMPosted by Rijiku
week character
So he's 7 days long?
11/02/2018 03:38 PMPosted by Rijiku
it official I give up blizzard and their writing for horde. Seeing that just really turned me off the game in a major way. Not only does he not have any horde honor. But he openly admits he wanted the other side to take care of his Sylvanas Windrunner. Really he so cowardly that he lets someone else do it. then when told the other side cant do it. He looks well now what.

Why is any horde based player behind this traitor and spineless fool saurfang. He a freaking punch line for the writers. Hate current one and want Sylvanas Windrunner out fine. How is saurfang the alternative to Sylvanas Windrunner and peoples seeing nothing wrong with it. If Saurfang plots and schemes form the shadow he no better than Sylvanas Windrunner. At least she somewhat open about it. Dang at least Sylvanas Windrunner takes them head on or has a horde person do it for her. She at least does not relies on Alliance to do her work for her.

Saurfang is actually worse than Sylvanas. He not only working for Alliance. He openly admits it. Not only that. He does not even try to denied that he lets the boy king. This is just too much even for me.

It sure now make sense how they were able to out maneuver her in legion. Never understood how Genn Greymane new half the things he did. Most of the attacks on her were just too good. I now bet the writers had him slip the info.

You are not true horde players at heart if you except any of this crap being handed to you. Lore on honor an tradition with him is out the door. What left is steaming pile of crap. Lore wise a orc, personal reputation is as important as his or her clan, and most will fight to the death in defense of either. Saurfang has not one once of it of esteem for his name.

Man this sucks. tell how to down vote this video


I hate the alliance too, but Lich queen will kill everything. She is the antithesis of life. If you side with her, you side with the scourge-lite. I hate zombies. Saurfang isn't perfect, but at least he's not trying to end all life on azeroth. Don't worry your little head. There will always be horde fighting alliance. No Matter how bad the writing has to get.
See all alliance pro players here supporting this. This is about the true horde players. One who cares about the lore. You know something all trues players feel. Wither its alliance or horde. You want some semblance of lore.

Looking above poster. I am asking for horde to actually get something beside same style of writing for last three expansion. One a kill crazy lunatic the other a spineless fool. The only twist is he admits he working for alliance. That what we get.

Sorry you are not a true horde player if you get behind any of this. Saurfang is a weak charecter. he openly admits he cant defeat Sylvanas. If that not week. Then what is?????

Sylvanas i get why people do not like her. For alliance at heart players she a strong charecter. Allince based players cant stand a horde based player a strong chareter. It is that simple. Why else they push him or Baine as war chief.
11/02/2018 04:17 PMPosted by Rijiku
See all alliance pro players here supporting this. This is about the true horde players. One who cares about the lore. You know something all trues players feel. Wither its alliance or horde. You want some semblance of lore.

Looking above poster. I am asking for horde to actually get something beside same style of writing for last three expansion. One a kill crazy lunatic the other a spineless fool. The only twist is he admits he working for alliance. That what we get.

Sorry you are not a true horde player if you get behind any of this. Saurfang is a weak charecter. he openly admits he cant defeat Sylvanas. If that not week. Then what is?????

Sylvanas i get why people do not like her. For alliance at heart players she a strong charecter. Allince based players cant stand a horde based player a strong chareter. It is that simple. Why else they push him or Baine as war chief.

**ahem***
You will kindly scroll up a few; read, this time, my previous post.
I am Horde and was born around the time of the Burning Crusade so I have seen a lot of fighting and am full of Horde blood. However, I hate what Sylvanas has done to us. You keep talking about week, I mean weak and honorless? What the hell do you call genocide? Burning down the Tree just to spite a Night Elf with an attitude. That was not Sylvanas' original objective and the vast majority of the Horde did not agree with it. She only did it as an after-thought, which by the way backfired.

That's when we all finally realized that she is a psychopath. Her primary goal is not the betterment of the Horde, she is obsessed with her Forsaken. You see it constantly in the underlayment of all her actions and interactions.

I too want the Horde to be strong, but I don't want to follow an egotistical maniac that has no governors or true honor. True honor is a battle among warriors, not wiping out a whole race to prove a point. And regarding Saurfang, there is more honor in not fighting for a person that does not have the same goals and values as you than blindly following someone because of their rank or because they are perceived as "strong".
More important, this is just stale. It's like we're repeating the Mists of Pandaria story again but the game is actually bad this time.

Laziest expansion ever. How long until they announce mobile World of Warcraft?
11/02/2018 03:49 PMPosted by Cyllinix
11/02/2018 03:47 PMPosted by Myracle
Why is Saurfang being put on the Blizzard pedestal? I don't get it

Because he's a cool dude who kills aliens and doesn't afraid of anything.


He seems afraid of Sylvanas and was pooping in his pants hoping Anduin could kill Sylvanas.
If your takeaway from Lost Honor is that it's anti-Horde, because Saurfang has a code of honor and Sylvanas doesn't, I don't know what to tell you.

I think we will be getting our old Horde back, and that's welcome.
Wow and WC 1-3 having a teen sort of fantasy writing was fine back 15 years ago but the people who are playing now are older (for the most part). The 15 year old fantasy story with plots you guess on page 3 is stale. We can handle some subtitles.

The best the story has been recently has been MOP with the Divine Bell event because the entire thing was shades of grey. Actual grey and not cartoony evil or whitewashed goodness that we're told is anything but.

If they were going to do this whole retread of MOP after they said they totally weren't I would appreciate it being more subtle. Telling me you're not stealing my wallet while I watch you reach into my pocket isn't exactly leaving me brimming with confidence.

Hire some good writers, actually listen to them or ask your fans. Hell I've written small novels on things that could be done as have tons of other players.
11/02/2018 04:17 PMPosted by Rijiku
See all alliance pro players here supporting this. This is about the true horde players. One who cares about the lore. You know something all trues players feel. Wither its alliance or horde. You want some semblance of lore.

Looking above poster. I am asking for horde to actually get something beside same style of writing for last three expansion. One a kill crazy lunatic the other a spineless fool. The only twist is he admits he working for alliance. That what we get.

Sorry you are not a true horde player if you get behind any of this. Saurfang is a weak charecter. he openly admits he cant defeat Sylvanas. If that not week. Then what is?????

Sylvanas i get why people do not like her. For alliance at heart players she a strong charecter. Allince based players cant stand a horde based player a strong chareter. It is that simple. Why else they push him or Baine as war chief.


You think hes a spineless fool for not following a leader that he believes is destroying his horde?

You think he doesnt have honor because he won't fight an opponent he knows is too powerful for him to beat? A pyrrhic defeat is better?

You think he is honorless and cowardly for trying to work with the enemy of his enemy, to save what matters most to him, despite all and every personal cost?

Maybe, just maybe, I'd follow someone who would be willing to give up their everything, and made personal deals with "demons", to protect everyone else under his charge when he had literally no other options.

Maybe, just maybe, he traded his personal honor so the people under his care wouldn't have to lose their lives, or worse.