Curious on what other players think should’ve happened after sylvanas gets defeated.
We could come up with better stories ourselves at this point.
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my guess is that this would have been the outcome they wanted
and then the rest just now saying “We killed Sylvanas, now let’s focus on killing the Jailer next.”
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I think players would have been much happier if Sylavanas could just suffer a single defeat.
Even in this cinematic, where she technically “loses” because she realizes the error of her ways and her attack on the jailer fails, it still feels like she wins. She beats us, she gets the moral high ground, sets up redemption, and she gets her soul back.
The motivation for her heel switch also didn’t make sense. Sylvanas was never painted as a stupid character, so why is she too stupid to realize she is serving the jailer this whole time? I would have liked if they tied her story into denathrius’ fate. We mortally wound her at the end of the fight, the jailer gets the sigil and she pleads for him to grant her power/help . Instead, the jailer turns his back and start to port away. In a rage, because of her arrogance and the realization that the jailer thought so little of her, she lashes out at the jailer. Then, you can leave the rest of the cutscene alone. Jailer blocks her attack, talks some jive about her being a pawn, takes her powers and gives her her soul as payment for her service, leaving her to our mercy.
In this scenario, she still gets her pseudo redemption, but she at least suffers an embarrassing character defeat. She’s left abandoned and defeated. Now, with her soul returned and her life fleeting, we offer her mercy in exchange for information to help defeat the jailer. She is motivated for revenge on the jailers and is also grappling with her returned humanity, and we must begrudgingly work with her, promising justice for her crimes when the jailer is defeated.
I think the best solution would be if we could just kill her after an epic raid fight. But the writers don’t want to do that. So at least offer some sensible motivations for her actions and satisfying victories on our end.
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She would have been set free with loves true kiss… at which point she and her intended retreat to Uruguay to open a little B&B (far far away from Warcraft).
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Everything that happened in that cinematic was fine except the STUPID line of “I will never serve.”
I would change it to “I am done serving you.”
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If they want to redeem Sylvanas it’s fine. The problem is HOW they did it.
They claim that she is this mastermind that set a plan in motion years ago… and NOW out of nowhere she realizes that the Jailer… the guy that turn souls into mindless slaves… is evil and must be stopped… And she waits for him to get empowered to try to stop him? Why be triggered by the word “serve” if she said the same word to Anduin and nothing helped? She even said that shed had not come this far to falter now…
I would have made him first deliver her soul back to her as some kind of a bargain… that all she did all this time was for the selfish reason that she wanted to feel whole again or something like that… And after she gets her soul back she would feel even worse because everything she did… and THEN she tries to strike the Jailer down…
At least to me it would make more sense…
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Or she just breaks under the weight of her actions without attacking the Jailer at all. She falls to her knees and the Jailer walks away laughing.
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Sylvanas gets the unliving tar beaten out of her, the Jailer shows up and blows a raspberry at her as she calls out for help, and then she dies.
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exact same except Sylvanas kills the jailer saving the shadowlands ending the expansion and redeeming herself even more not that she needs too though cause she did nothing wrong
All hail the Banshee Queen
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Anduin stabs her in the gut again with that fancy sword and she dissolves like a certain other genocidal warchief.
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Agreed. I also think if Sylvanas decided to switch up once anduin had that conversation with her-- or once she saw anduin was the new lich king basically it wouldnt have been as bad.
They butchered her character to forward Zovaal the same way Gul’dan was brought back to forward Sargeras. The same way Queen Azshara was used to forward N’zoth. Why do these BIG BADS constantly need to be forwarded by someone lesser if theyre so powerful?
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i saw someone on reddit say, “I will never be enslaved” instead, i liked that one too
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Ehh I don’t like that one because just like serving, she was enslaved by the Lich King.
I wanted to kill the Syvalans we have known all this time and then after we discovery that the noble, honorable and self sacrificing side was locked in the Maw, we launch a mission to recovery it. It it then later released into Ardenweald to finally be at peace.
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“I see…only darkness…”
dead
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Agreed. We’re going to get the “Sylvanas didn’t have the good part of her soul thats why she did what she did” type of redemption. Even though she still committed genocide and is the reason for all of these events.
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Her story would’ve ended when she killed herself at ICC
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Sylvanas living and hinting at some possible redemption arc. was expected. But I’m honestly just over the almost incessant actions that happen that are so illogical, but they simply exist to move the story forward.
The Jailer, imo, should have never given Sylvanas back her soul. It’s not in his character to “reward” someone. It almost seems counter to his character. When we defeat Sire Denathrius, and Sylvanas suggests they free him, the Jailer simply says he’s served his purpose and doesn’t matter… So, the other immortal, very powerful being who has been his ally for a long, long time… Doesn’t matter. But this mortal elf who he let borrow some of his own power deserves… a reward? After launching an arrow at his face and “betraying” him?
Also, him just walking away from us. 
“he’s so powerful and arrogant that he doesn’t care about us” blah blah… we’re literally the only beings who have even come close to putting dents in his plans. The eternal ones couldn’t even do anything. He should’ve slaughtered all of us where we stood.
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Nothing. Probably wouldn’t kill her but she would become a vendor for the undead and never see any story/character development ever again.
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That experience is basically her entire justification for everything she does at this point so it’d make sense.