How would you balance Dracthyr Racials?

Dracthyr racials are currently an extension of their class. They’re pretty potent for actual racials.

Imagine how popular a race that has 2 ccs and a glide will be for meta. I bet folks will figure out skips using all dracthyr. Tho I suppose in theory that can already been done with an evoker/dh team comp.

Still I think it’s likely for them to get a bit of changed for non-evokers.

Glide: Giving a bunch of classes access to a double jump/glide for only one race seems kinda iffy. Though to be fair there is pretty easy to access umbrella toys that give a sort of glide with a reasonable cooldown. Still I have a feeling that it might be nerfed so that you can only glide while already in mid-air getting ride of the double jump. And if they feel like that is STILL too strong they might give it a cooldown.

Soar: This is fine as is. It’s basically Dracthyr running wild it’s a racial mount of sorts.

Visage: This is fine as is though I can see them disabling the increase hp regen. (I wish the increase out of combat regen thing was just an evoker passive and not tied to visage)

Wing Buffet and Tail Swipe will likely share a cooldown AND have a longer cooldown. Likely 2 minutes but maybe more.

Awakened and Discerning Eye seem like they’d be fine.

Remove them all

they shouldnt touch them like they havent touched shadowmeld or the dwarf racials

don’t you dare touch Soar and Visage.

They’re fine.

Just like every other racial is fine.

And I detest the two cc ones, knocking mobs around gets my goat.

Glide is probably not going to be as potent a racial as people think. It’s good extra mobility, but it’s not going to beat out real mobility (unless you’re a priest) I guess they could add a very short cooldown to it for non-evokers so it’s not spammable but i don’t think that’s necessary. At most i could see non-mobile classes favoring dracthyr for the extra bump. Unlike other mobility, however, you can’t do anything while you’re gliding, you’re just stopping everything to do it, so more emergency mobility at best.

They could also just give everybody glide in some format. Like class specific glides.

The aoe stops are going to be what bring people to the race, i can see them rolling the cooldowns together, so you really only get one, or dramatically increasing them for non-evokers.

Visage, they already said you’ll be able to be that all the time. The passive addition to health regen out-of-combat is basically nothing in most scenarios unless you’re waiting for the next boss pull after a wipe. Not even useful for M+ because of how fast you move from pull to pull.

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I’d go the nuclear option and make visages/soar evoker-only. If you’re gonna pick dracthyr just to play another class, you better damn well look like a dragon. :smiling_imp:

The main issue are with the knockback and knock up. OP for PVP, extra CC.

Everything else should stay, even glide.

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Nah, they are apart of the “nerf DH” us Warlocks are still pushing.

I feel like people intentionally miss the fact that dracthyr are an intentional metaphor about being your truest self no matter what form that takes. We see this everywhere, most recently in the Visage Day quest line.

Oh I know, and I even like the idea on paper. I just think the execution (horde-side, at least) blows chunks.

I agree with this, at the level of m+ where this starts to be a problem these two elephants need to be talked about before it makes sense to go after the new guys.

We do not have a double jump. It is one jump and then the second time you press it glide. It isn’t like the Demon Hunters that can actually jump twice and then glide (I think).

Honestly, just let every race use gliders ala GW2. Solves the problem and makes the game more fun for everyone.

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Nothing about using the Dracthyr race’s wings nor tail screams “Evoker class ability” to me.

Make them share a cooldown with one another.

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Make them share a cooldown, give Evoker a talent or passive that splits the cooldown.

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i’D BE MORE okay with the first one if they let us wear gear in dracthyr form.

It’s just a little bump after you hit glide the first time. It doesn’t get you much altitude.

DH gets this as well.

There was, however, a funny bug with it initially where you could mash spacebar really fast and gain infinite altitude

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I wish they would touch the crap out of Visage. I want to be able to pick my visage to be any race not be stuck with male blood elf or human female

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I remember that bug on beta, but what I meant is that I thought Demon Hunters also had a Wildstar style could jump again in air thing too. Where as Dracthyr just have jump and then the push when they start gliding, I thought Demon Hunters could go jump, another little jump, and then glide.

That said, I have never played Demon Hunter, so I was wrong apparently.

Edit: That bug was fun, though. Basically let you go across the map just from opening and closing your wings. Was clearly going to be fixed, but it was a laugh when it was around. :slight_smile:

fun fact: almost all races have dragon eye options and there is weird things on most races necks (Except dracthyr). So eye and horn options for other races as visage form MAY be coming but I wouldn’t expect it until mid-to-late TWW at best.