I can own that L, I ain’t helping but it just rustled my jimmies seeing people having a normal talk then another Lore-Cop entered the chat. I’ll stop now and go back to hunting stragglers in the Deeprum Tram for me and my rats.
EDIT: I should apologize too. My apologies for further derailing the thread. I, for one, hope OP finds a less clumsy nomenclature than Theramorian cause that’s a mouth-full of syllables.
Its a good question for sure. I would like to think that Theramore began developing its own identity. While the seafaring nature of their Kul Tiran roots definitely persisted, it seems, at least to me, like Theramore very much became its own place with its own culture throughout its lifespan. Theramore’s old, old lore describes it as a place with diverse racial make-up with many half-elves and other residents. It has its own politics, and its own policies towards the Horde separate from the rest of the Alliance.
I think a character born in Theramore might be best served considering their personal heritage. If their ancestors/parents were Kul Tiran, they probably lean more into that part of Theramore’s identity, if not, then less so. Either way, if the character was born in Theramore, that should probably stay a key part of that identity the same way a void elf might keep Silvermoon as part of their identity even if their home no longer can play a role in their life. That all said, characters identifying with more than one nation-state is not uncommon or unrealistic.
In this case, I think if they do not have any Lordaeron roots personally, its probably not a strong part of their identity.
Because he occupied it after its construction. His forces then left after his death and their defeat. It’s a weird argument too, lest you also wish to make the claim that Stormwind is an orc city as the wiki lists Stormwind City as having formerly been affiliated with the Stormreaver Clan.
Theramore’s banner bears the blue and white of Lordaeron and pays homage to the origin of the majority of its people by featuring Lordaeron’s stylised L, and the heritage of its ruling lady with the anchor.
Who, like Kristoff, might have been from Lordaeron.
She is one of a handful of Theramore aligned characters stated to have been from Kul Tiras.
His nationality is completely unknown.
Because, as you quote here below
You posted nothing that showed Theramore as a Kul Tiran entity, only that Kul Tiras at one point briefly occupied it. The Kul Tirans where then defeated and driven away from Theramore, while some of them remained behind and others thought it wrong to have turned against him so they deserted from Jaina’s regime.
You did say Kul Tiras gave control of Tol barad to Stromgarde, so you ought to do that yourself. Also, use this instead of Wowpedia. https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Warcraft_Wiki
So Theramore was ultimately founded by the groups that went with Jaina to Kalimdor which consisted of Kul’tirans, Lordaeronians, Arathi and a small token force of Gilnean’s sent by Darius Crowley.
Really anyone from Theramore could identify as being from any of the Human Kingdoms and it wouldn’t be a stretch.
Yes, someone mentioned this at the start. I’m just baffled of the back and forth and that people didn’t just take the wheel, they took my whole car and left me at the stoplight.
I feel like making assertions about lore in a thread like this and then telling people your interpretation is the only real one and is absolutely not up for debate is, in fact, inviting a debate.
Regardless and moving on, Theramore is one of my favorite little city states in Azeroth and, as someone that was introduced to the lore through Warcraft 3, it holds a very special place in my heart. I know many have said this already, but I don’t think anyone would bat an eye at someone having been born in, or fled to Theramore from Lordaeron holding on to that heritage, though I do feel after its destruction that there would be a huge surge in national identity over the fallen city. Maybe your character identifies their roots in Lordaeron, but remembers that Theramore was their salvation and home away from home.
Also keep in mind that Theramore’s flag even has the seal of Lordaeron upon it. It was a mishmash of national identities that came together with the goal of peaceful coexistence in Kalimdor. Gilneans, High Elves, Dwarves, Lordaeronians and of course Kul Tirans all came together for the expedition during the Third War.
TLDR I think it is up to the individual and what they identify with more for sure.
Of all the Long-Leggedies elves are peak Long-Leggedy. But then Blood Elves are the peak peak Long-Leggediest. And then Void Elves, right? Void elves are like when that peak peak Long-Leggediest somehow collapsed into a goth singularity of Long-Leggediness. Which is really ironic since out of all the elves Void Elves are the closest to being normal-leggedied.
Like maybe the Draenei or Taurens are the actual physical peak of Long-Leggediness, I can’t really tell you. From a normal-leggedied perspective there’s a certain level of Long-Leggediness where I need another angle of measurement before I can accurately judge how long their leggedies really are. But when it comes to Long-Leggediness as a qualia, you gotta give it to the elves. Maybe you can give the qualia of Long-Leggedy-Mom-Energy to the Draenei or Taurens. Most of the Draenei I meet are healers or paladins. Most of the Taurens I meet either want to stab the Pook or hold my hand or a combination of the two. I guess that’s a kind of mom-energy.
Anyway, the gummy I got from that night elf is doing it’s thing so I’ll have a ghost pepper burrito and a large chocolate milk. The ghost pepper is the spanking and the chocolate milk is the safe word.
Theramore was founded by refugees from Lordaeron, Dalaran, and other Northern Kingdoms that fell to the Scourge because Jaina listened to the Prophet (Medivh) and took them to Kalimdor to fight the Burning Legion.
It’s very possible that some Kul Tirans are still there from Daelin Proudmoore’s takeover of the city, but they weren’t the ones who founded it.
I think we’ve danced around the issue long enough.
Do we call them Theramorians and condemn future generations to this multi-syllable hellscape we chose or do we give them a cool, easy name like…uhh, Morians? I’m spitballing here, we need more input.