How viable are Prot Paladins in TBC?

It’s instant cast and around 1000tps. Warriors and druids have nothing even close.

This triggered my PTSD. I was a prot warrior main tank and our protadin was always trying to punk me out and take my spot lol. He had a giant chip on his shoulder regarding warrior tanks since he was forced to heal in vanilla.

Of course I never said it out loud, but I was pretty jealous of paladins’ ability to AOE tank.

Prot is great! They can be the key to and also hard carry any 5 man or even 10 man while also being impactful in a 25 man setting.

I’m not 100% on their professions but I do think you’ll want jc/eng at least early game. I believe there’s a nice stam trinket from jc as well as the rocket launcher from eng which can help on pulls where you don’t want to have your shield pull extra mobs

you can wear 2 of the engineering stam trinkets. They are BiS for a LONG time

i played a Prot paladin in TBC.

i was mining/BS.

on most fights you’ll be tanking adds.

you cant tank Archimonde. that’s the only one.

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This.

Also make sure that your prot paladin has 2 or 3 extra shields because they block so much that their shields will often break mid trash pull. Not even kidding.

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TBC is age of pally’s! Ill definitely have one. Ill go the jewelcrafting to fit the Dranei and go to 11 with engineering for when we need just that little bit MORE ya know?

The threat it generates depends on the number of targets buffed. It will not generate enough threat to be worth doing in TBC. Just do the math for yourself, bud.

No, they aren’t. Stamina is a noob trap. You will have more than enough stamina to survive mechanics by just wearing the best gear available.

More health does not reduce your damage taken, at all. It does not increase your threat, at all. It does not increase your damage, at all.

I was a Prot Pally tank in a sunwell clearing guild on private server for about 2ish years.

Amazing dungeon tank once you get a little bit of gear, early on is rough.

Raids I would say you are ‘good’ but you are deff a utility tank/offtank/weird fight specialist.

Professions don’t really matter too much. Eng gives you some good helms for all three specs. JC gives good trinkets early on and way later in SWP you get free necks that are comparable but slightly worse than the BIS necks. Everyone is gonna get so upset and crazy over drums but it really isn’t that big of a deal but it is the best professions if you raid wants to min max.

One of the most unique specs/playstyles that’s for sure.

Love building an OP threatset and letting the DPS just go balls out on AOE without having to wait, that will make people love playing with you.

Only boss I ever just couldn’t tank was Brutalis…there were other Pally tanks on my server that did it but I just got smashed everytime my guild tried it so we eventually just said f this as we had geared Warriors/Druids.

Prot paladins CAN main tank in tbc, don’t let these fools tell you otherwise. A paladin’s greatest weakness is generating threat when they aren’t being attacked (getting healed = mana regen). But this weakness is countered by one simple strategy…just let the pally tank first!

Looking at the TBC database and some guides, It seems the threat is less than a warrior. The defense capability is less than other tanks. You also have to have some +spell damage items to generate threat. Mana is still an issue for long fights as downranking is recommended.

I don’t think you’re going to MT all fights. I personally would play a paladin for a change

Vol, what do you do if you’re not tanking? Can paladin put healing gear on and still be effective?

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Found the guy that doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about and never tanked anything in his life!

Quoted for Truth. My Paladin friend had an insane block chance. 2 or 3 extra shields “might” help :slight_smile:

Yes, you can be effective. You might not top charts, but you can certainly heal dungeons and do some raid healing.

Says the level 22 Warlock.

Here’s my Druid, which was a tank for the majority of Classic.
BWL:
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/herod/rautaketju#zone=1002&partition=2

MC:
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/herod/rautaketju#zone=1000&partition=1

For anyone who actually knows what they’re talking about, stamina is only useful to the point of surviving mechanics, then totally worthless.

Any EHP beyond what is necessary is just pointlessly and arbitrarily higher numbers that has absolutely zero impact on your damage taken, threat, or damage.

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Posting just to prove that’s me, and not some random guy claiming to be me. Rautaketju is Ironchain in Finnish.

We aren’t talking about classic and we aren’t talking about druids… Until t6 45 stam on a trinket is WAY too good to give up in both slots on a paladin. Once they get to t6 gear they will be able to swap at least one of those out for a better stats but before that point they will need the health to buffer the healers.

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They’re incredibly good Tanks for all purposes, especially given the Sunwell patch balancing Paladins got for both Protection and Retribution. You’ll be capable of filling any role in all raid tiers in TBC.

Yep can wear healing gear and help out on the non needed fights which for my guild was only Brutalis. You also put up a seal on the boss (wisdom(mana) or light(small heals).

On Kil’Jaden we have Warriors hearth and respec DPS and have 1 of the DPS Warriors tank KJ because he doesn’t melee. I tank the Sinister Reflections and do the Dragons.

On Eredar twins I was also tanking the caster sister, some guilds have Warlocks do it.

I think ultimately the question is: What trinkets are better?

IRC, there is a super nice block trinket for Paladins in TBC. So that covers one trinket.

Agreed with Rautaketju, in general, stacking stamina is a bad idea in TBC.