Many tanks and healers prefer Leech, while many DPS prefer Avoidance. It’s difficulty to sim them, because small variations in the model can result in large differences in the tertiary stats’ value.
Some people quote WorstEpEver’s 9.1.0 sim that a piece of gear with a tertiary stat usually equals 6~8 item levels extra. Therefore, a rule of thumb would be to “add 6.” For instance, a 246-ilevel tank piece with Leech would be roughly equivalent to a 252-ilevel piece without.
What do you guys think? Is adding 6 item levels overpricing or underpricing the tertiary stats?
Depends on your class. Monks get very little value from leech because it cant proc our 60% celestial healing buff. We get far more value from speed and avoidance, though there’s no way to sim for the value of speed.
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Idk that I’d give it much value as ilvl. 6 seems about right if you’re struggling to survive. The damage difference of identical items 6 ilvls apart is something like 0.1% dps. I’d easily give that value to 1% passive healing from damage or 3% reduced damage from aoe spells.
Just a note: when they buffed tanks passive defense by 10% it was night and day. Just a couple of pieces of avoidance can reduce a huge amount of stress in the worst of healing nightmares (shards of halkias and enraged masks)
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Avoidance used to be strong in BFA when you got obliterated by boss AOEs on higher keys.
Leech pieces are really strong for healers though, especially for raid healing. Leech is like 6-8% of my healing.
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I love the speed stat just because of how much nicer it makes getting around in areas where I can’t mount. I do a lot of legacy content, so that’s probably why.
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Even as I gear myself for Mythic Sylvanas, I didn’t put any stock in tertiaries. They’re incredibly powerful when concentrated, but very weak if spread out. I ended up getting a lot of speed (114% for Mythic Painsmith, 118% by Sylvanas, and I can get up to 121-124%), but I don’t stack my leech or avoidance options because I don’t have very much, and the item levels are lower.
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I replaced a 246 plate with a 246 plate with 67 Leech. It contributed to an additional ~3% of my effective healing done, or about ~110 HPS. That’s quite a chunk. I’m delighted.
Summary of tertiary stats:
It really won’t change your DPS, it’s pretty much entirely for defensive purposes, barring speed. You shouldn’t be trying to sim things based around tertiaries. If you get them it’s just a bonus.
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it’ll help healer dps in keys. at least for shaman we usually take the anima power that gives us a big haste buff in exchange for taking ticking damage whenever we’re in combat. with enough leech you can basically ignore that which means fewer gcds healing yourself back up and more time dpsing. but i doubt it’s a huge difference.
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Sockets and ilvl are more important. Look at the top 20 of the class you play. Guarantee some of them have lack of tertiary stats.
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I’ll take speed over anything. Got to get there first!
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Yeah I get that it’ll help healer dps if they don’t need to heal as much, but it’s not going to gamebreak your stuff. You having 0 leech vs 20% leech really won’t be the reason you’re not timing that +20
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Tbf, it’ll also be pretty rare that it’s because you have a 246 in a slot over a 252.