I enjoy the concept of the challenge that m+ potentially brings to players and the potential rewards for doing keys in time, but the absolute abhorrent behavior that I’ve had directed at me or seen directed at others makes the whole experience unenjoyable even when nothing happens. It’s become so common of an occurrence that there’s this invisible pressure even in silent groups that it sours the whole thing for me. What can blizzard do to make m+ appear less like the average game of blind pick in league of legends
Cant see how blizzard can actively stop other players from being rude in any context.
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You cannot.
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Blizzard cannot control the behavior of players, it is on you to seek out players who share your values to play with.
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The design of m+ breeds the toxicity that’s prevalent. Unless they radically change m+, it’s not going away, at least not if you’re pugging.
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Join a guild or make some friends.
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Yup. As long as M+ is the way it is, it’ll be toxic.
Only way to get rid of it is to change M+. Theoretically could also get rid of it by them going hardcore into banning people for being toxic or pulling a FFXIV and banning anyone who even mentions the word “DPS meter”, but that’s very unlikely to happen
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Take away the timed aspect, will get rid of a lot of extra tension and high emotions.
Find some way to bake the difficulty back into the dungeon instead of just relying on the pressure of a timer to add difficulty.
Maybe a death counter like Torghast? Not sure though, could still be too much extra on everyone.
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Remove FOMO.
Remove the timer.
They won’t do either though.
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Yes they can. They ban them. They just wont. FF 14 doesn’t have problems banning toxic behavior, problem is they got too sensitive with it. You could give polite constructive criticism and get banned.
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Let me ask you this. do you know when affixes kick in? Do you know what they are for the week? Do you know how to respond to mobs knowing those affixes? Do you know the extra mechanics in boss kills or what dangerous spells any particular mob will cast that one needs to look out for or interrupt as your Mythics go higher?(especially of the dungeons you are interested in?) Do you? instead of doing any of the above mentions ask Blizzard what can they do to make it “appear” less like the whatever toxicity is randomly described? Do you check resources online to improve your mythic skill? Does all this sound to tedious or time consuming and you want just a simple clear? Well…one last question. Why should ones time who hasn’t done any of this be just as important over someone who has taken all the time to learn all of this? But those skilled should just leave. They don’t have to be jerks. That’s the only band aide I’m going to give you.
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M+ is Ion baby good luck getting him to change anything about it. I mean he went as far as make the new Megadung only M+ at release and god knows when for the rest. If anything he is promoting and participating in this toxic mess.
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Get so good that you can carry the group then nobody will be rude, everyone likes a free carry
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I thought it was just regular mythic, like Mechagon was? Or Kara? That would make more sense so they could break it up into sections later for mythic+ as per usual.
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The only way you can make M+ not toxic is to completely remove the competitive aspects of it so people no longer care about it.
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Make M+ not available in group finder.
Boom. No one can afford to be toxic any more.
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No It doesnt , the individual person is the reason , they CHOOSE to be toxic
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people can be extremely competitive without being toxic , and a lot of what some people think is toxic isnt ,
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Performance matters, expecting performance isn’t toxic.
In fact almost every high performance team I’ve been a part of in the real world is incredibly anti-toxic, with strict conduct rules around mocking, shaming, ranting or any kind of below the belt behavior that doesn’t facilitate team cohesion and a sense of belonging.
But performance still matters. If you’re failing at your job, your boss giving you a bad performance review isn’t toxic.
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Good sportsmanship is very underrated, for sure.
There’s the other side in this that takes everything overly personal and has to treat everything as an attack, can be “toxic” from each end of the spectrum.
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