How to repair the Horde

[Erevien-moon-guard]

No. 10 characters

[Rosenylund-emerald-dream]

Yes

[Phìsh-kiljaeden]

@Erevien-moon-guard

There will be no peace until Alliance is wiped from existence. They have wronged the Horde races more then enough. Loktar!

NEVER! Alliance will slay you heathens! On a side note though, if you guys could “take care of” anduin I would totally forgive you.

[Murugan-hydraxis (Murugan)]

Can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

[Kilvin-onyxia]

i want Garrosh back. the true horde… i joined the horde to be the bad guys. Send this tree hugging queer Baine back to his pussy king Anduin, so the horde can conqueror all as it was meant to be.

[Armalite-emerald-dream]

@Juuhachigou-tichondrius

I would if I could. But Blizzard is like those people that make choices for us. Everything I do is choosen for me I cant even choose who I…

Sylvanas and the jailer will break us free from this cycle.

See horde?

We warned you what would happen when you let elves in your faction

You were all like, nooooo we don’t want no stinky Ogres

[Loktris-moon-guard]

9. Exterminate the Horde. Azeroth would be a much better place.

[Armalite-emerald-dream]

@Erevien-moon-guard

I will never accept peace with the Alliance. They are my enemy and deserve to die full time.

Hope you plan to back that up on the battlefield and not just running around shouting lightning bolt at people

[Cyniel-dentarg (Cyniel)]

In the words of the character I dislike the most

“You are NOTHING”

As far as I’m concerned the only good Horde is a dead Horde and no not undead.

[Daromir-onyxia (Daromir)]

@Erevien-moon-guard

Get rid of the peace mongers. Baine and Thrall have always placed the wellbeing of the Alliance above that of the Horde. We need to get rid of them and replace them with others. In this case AU Grommash and Magatha Grimtotem.

This wouldn’t repair the Horde, just cause faction tensions again. Thrall and Baine didn’t put the Alliance above the Horde, they put PEACE above all.

@Erevien-moon-guard

Rebellion. The Horde council needs to elect a leading figure, who can act as face and voice of the entire Horde. Somehow similar to the high king of the Alliance but of all that person would be picked by democratic vote.

You mean a War Chief?
Hasn’t historically worked out so well. See Garrosh and Sylvanas.

@Erevien-moon-guard

Getting new allies and strengthen the military. The Horde installs a conscription system which will gain the Horde a all time standing army.

They kinda already have this given that most of the Horde members have a significant martial culture. Even the other members are expected to provide something.

@Erevien-moon-guard

Recruit lore characters. Draka and Kael’thas are the perfect picks for this. In Shadowlands they will be spoken to by the Orc and Bloodelf leaders to recruit them to the Horde and that their people need them.

They’re dead and not coming back.

@Erevien-moon-guard

Covenants. Since it is obvious in Shadowlands, that the two characters above will lead the Venthyr and Necrolords, those covenants will join the Horde and bolster their ranks even further.

Not quite obvious who is leading who and also — the covenants are all dead people. They’re not coming over to the land of the living for something as minute as a faction war on one planet.

@Erevien-moon-guard

time skip. After a time skip of 10 years the Horde will built heavy urbanizing and fortifications on the lands they currently own. New settlements form up everywhere and mark the Hrode territory under their rulership.

The Alliance will be building as well.
Further, this doesn’t stop other tensions from slowing down that progress. It’s not like when we’re gone all the conflict leaves with us.
Plenty of other threats remaining that can poke their head out given the weakened state of both factions and the loss of most of their heroes.

@Erevien-moon-guard

The Forsaken. A new desolate council forms, made up of former Forsaken personalities. Gunther Arcanus, the black bride, Grand executor Mortuus, Belmont, Velonara and Apothecary Faranell just to name a new. Additional to that. Undercity will be rebuilt and used as necropolis that flies above the fully built up Andorhal in a stationary position

Based on the outcome of BFA — this is highly doubtful.
Whatever plague Sylvanas left behind seems bad for EVERYONE. She salted the Earth when she left.
Also, Alliance holds Stromgarde now and still has Aerie Peak.
That gives them significant leverage to win the battle for Gil’neas and slowly retake Silverpine.
By the time Lordaeron is possibly cleared of plague and can be made habitable (much less what you suggest), so many resources will have been used there that the Alliance will have an overwhelming advantage in the northern part of the Eastern Kingdoms.
Not to mention — even with the Alliance distracted in Gil’neas, you still have to deal with the Scarlet holdouts who are still active.

@Erevien-moon-guard

with this solid foundation it will be truly a faction that is on equal footing with the Alliance

As much of an Alliance fanboy that I am, this statement to me makes me think you over-estimate the Alliance’s position overall.

In the Eastern Kingdoms? Yeah, they have a pretty significant advantage.
In Kalimdor? Not so much. It took a lot to retake Darkshore, ashenvale has been a warzone FOR A WHILE, Azshara is basically the Horde’s, Felwood is still Felwood, and Teldrassil burnt down.
Even with losing the Battle for Darkshore to the Alliance, the Horde has just as dominant a position in Kalimdor as the Alliance has in the Eastern Kingdoms.
The Pandarens are neutral. Both Kul’tiras and Zandalar were equally messed up in BFA. (by the end of BFA, Kul’Tiras’ navy is pressed just as hard as the Zandalari one)
So on the whole – both factions are roughly equal.

[Phlynch-sentinels (Phlynch)]

@Erevien-moon-guard

• Get rid of the peace mongers. Baine and Thrall have always placed the wellbeing of the Alliance above that of the Horde. We need to get rid of them and replace them with others. In this case AU Grommash and Magatha Grimtotem.

Baine and Thrall have always served the Horde above all. The reason they keep working with the Alliance is because peace with the Alliance would be the best survival choice for the Horde.

The problem is murderous nut cases like you who care more about getting to kill alliance than surviving yourself.

[Avraela-proudmoore]

Peace is always the best goal, not individual footing. There is no need to scratch at old wounds.

[Erevien-moon-guard]

Being the enemy of the alliance is what we do best. So get rid of The peace knicks and get back to hit the alliance where it hurts. Got that memo?

[Erevien-moon-guard]

@Daromir-onyxia

So on the whole – both factions are roughly equal.

They are not. Stop lying.

[Phlynch-sentinels (Phlynch)]

@Erevien-moon-guard

Being the enemy of the alliance is what we do best.

Dying to the Alliance is what you do best.

Maybe stop hitting the Alliance in places and you’ll stop doing that.

[Erevien-moon-guard]

No. Not interested. Alliance will pay with their blood.

[Phlynch-sentinels (Phlynch)]

Pay for what? Defending ourselves?

[Erevien-moon-guard]

Zuldazar, Brill, undercity, Taurajo. We are coming for you and will show no mercy.

[Fennik-feathermoon]

No…YOU are coming for them, little apprentice mage. The grown-ups are quite aware we have bigger problems right now. Or do you think I keep going back into the Maw and rescuing various faction leaders for my own health?

Spoiler: I’m not. I’s doing what I can to try to weaken, then stop, Sylvanas and the Jailer, the latter of whom has openly told us he’s coming for Azeroth’s soul - and very likely the souls of the rest of us, too. I have no illusions that if, or when, we achieve that, the various people I’ve pulled out of the Maw will be right back to wanting to kill me again, even if they were very grateful at the time. I’ll deal with that after something is not trying to destroy life and death alike. You know…priorities.

[Phlynch-sentinels (Phlynch)]

@Erevien-moon-guard

Zuldazar

Military target. Housed the massive military fleet the Horde was trying to get to they could kill everyone in the Alliance.

@Erevien-moon-guard

Brill, undercity,

Military targets. Researching the Blight so the Forsaken could kill everyone in Azeroth.

@Erevien-moon-guard

Taurajo.

Military target. Staging ground for repeated attacks on Theramore.

Maybe stop trying to kill everyone and you won’t have to get mad when the people you keep trying to kill attack the places you do your killing from.