It’s plenty accurate when it comes to CD tracking, usage and generally seeing if you’re actually hitting buttons.
Too many times I scrape through the logs wondering why X isn’t doing enough dps/hps and WoWAnalyzer points out that they’re holding onto CD’s the entire fight.
I have no idea, I never read logs. Hell I don’t even have damage meter, but I know I’m at the bottom.
Yes and no. Many specs are completely not supported by WoWAnalyzer right now so the overview minor-major importance stuff could be completely wrong. As arcane mage for example it says I should be using all my abilities as soon as they’re off cooldown, but that is completely not the case because certain abilities (Evocation, Shifting Power, Rune of Power, etc.) are held for specific spots in my burn or conserve phases.
If you actually go into the timeline to analyze their rotation you can draw conclusions yourself, but you can do that in WCL as well.
The only inaccuracy for Ret Paladins is Consencration uptime. It insists I should be hitting it off CD regardless of my position but it’s a small flaw in an otherwise great tool, imo.
Some classes are a bit more complex and intricate than specs like Ret paladin or Arms warrior.
So it’s not surprising WoWanalyzer might have a better time understanding the sequence of more simpler classes.
I’m clicking through the people of my heroic raid the other night and the classes I’m seeing completely unsupported are: Outlaw Rogue, VDH, MM Hunter, Aff Lock, Boomkin…
5 extremely high volume played classes completely unsupported, and I’m sure there are more (like Arcane Mage) where the overview information is supported but is just wrong.
In 8.3 I used it a lot, but until it is 100% supported and correct again it should be avoided. The timeline is still useful but again, that is also available in WCL.
No. It’s just that it needs contributors. It’s not some AI. There’s no single expert that’s doing each class individually. Just like the Ret Paladin section is maintained by theorycrafters from the Ret Discord and even recommends joining the discord in the “about” section.
My general goal every raid night is to NOT be dead weight. If I can manage that I’m happy.
What do I do with the 6 month sub I just got last week? Troll forums and get temp banned until its out? I mean the reason I dont have lvl 3 trust level is because I made some off color sex jokes.
If y’all downed the boss then no one is a dead weight.
? I don’t know why you are doing an eye roll. I know you’re response is likely that all WoW specs are relatively simple. But doesn’t make it as if Arm’s typical “Mortal Strike” bashing is the same league as Affliction Warlock managing 8 dots or Subtlety perfecting Shadow Dances with high energy optimization.
We can have a poll of 1,000 users on which spec is most difficult and easiest. I promise you the results won’t be the same.
Then again, some people are naturally better adapted to like certain things.
Except that many of WoWanalyzer tools are still not adapted or maintained to specific specs. Which is why I am skeptical it being the only resource.
I would never advocate using WoW Analyzer as a singular resource. It’s to be used in tandem with WCL, always. WA is much easier to read at a glance and doesn’t require any thought on the user side.
WCL can be confusing to anyone unfamiliar as there’s an overwhelming amount of configurations.
Heres how to read parses.
Ignore that people with lower parses might have actually been doing meaningful mechanics. Conclude that people who did nothing but pad their stats are better players.
You can get some insight from parses, but treating them like they are all that matters is really too bad.
That’s just your opinion, just because you do something doesn’t mean one person can’t seriously drag down performance.
I figured someone would throw out a retort like this… and I’ll just say that it only matters if you need to identify why you can’t complete a particular encounter.
Anything afterwards is whatever, you get slightly faster kills, higher parses, etc. but the work and the challenge is done; the game doesn’t reward you for going faster, it rewards you for being successful.
Sure, it’s an opinion but one that ultimately leads to a much more enjoyable game; if you berate players for performing poorly even after success you get nothing but toxicity.
It’s like punishing a puppy because they finally peed outside vs inside the house; you just don’t do that.
In OP’s case their guild got the kill, metrics there-in should only be used to self-improve; congratulate the team, toast to some beers, move on.
I hear you. So many just look at the pretty bars and they’re done. There is so much more to reading logs. I teach that the pretty bars are the last thing you look at.
The first thing is the uptime. Even something as simple and as clear cut as that isn’t free and clear. You should always look at it relative to the overall raid’s uptime. Some fights you just don’t have 99% uptime. Then there is bad luck with a run out mechanic - but only for specs that don’t have a dot of some sort.
Then, and only really because you’re on that page, take a look at your parse percentage for your ilvl. That’s not simple, either. Sometimes, especially early in the gearing process, you ilvl is not a solid ilvl. But once the gear starts flowing, it’s fine. Don’t get disappointed if it’s grey. That means there is a lot of learning to do, but learning is over half the fun anyway!
Now, move down to the Casts tab and see what your cpms are. If you’re new at log reading, you have no idea what is expected, so just note it for now. Later you’ll pull a comparison log and see what a player who does better than you has for cpms.
Then click on the Resources tab, drop down to select your resource (mana, rage, etc) and see how that looks. See if you wasted anything, or remained capped, or bottomed out, and so forth.
Lastly go back to casts and click on your name and take a look at how many times you cast things. Especially things that you are to cast on CD. Did you punch that button as many times as possible?
As a final farewell, be a love to your raid leader and go to the summary, and double check your talent build, conduits, enchants, and leggos with your local WoWhead writer. These guides are updated on the regular. (for now)
Then there is the selection of a good comparison log. This takes another tab, and a bit of filtering.
You want to open up the rankings of the same fight as the log you are looking at. Then you want to filter on the difficulty, your spec, your covenant and soulbind and then your ilvl. But, I would also add two other filters that you must manually enter: raid size and duration. Once you have your list, then you want to find someone just 500-1000 more dps (if dps) than you. (less if tank, naturally).
The reason you’re not just choosing the top log to look at is that top loggers usually are surrounded by a raid full of top loggers. That isn’t your raid. You may be hampered by your raid. By just choosing someone better than yourself, you are more likely to choose a log of someone who raids in a similar environment. It also sets a reasonable goal.
Logs are awesome for personal improvement!! I hope you come to enjoy them as much as I have.
Everyone has to do mechanics. Good players can do mechanics and parse high. Bad players can avoid mechanics and still parse low. The amount of dps loss by running out an Echo on Shriek, running a seed on Artificer, doing the partner dance in Council, etc. is the difference of MAYBE 5% over a fight if you know how to do it and get back to your dps rotation as quickly as possible.
And I thought Raider I.O wa one heck of a headache and now this? This is just making it easier for elitists to weed out other peeps despite doing things right such as performance and mecahnics for example. An unfair flawed system tbh.