How is BM right now in your opinion?
How is MM right now in your opinion?
How is Survival right now in your opinion?
What makes you choose the spec you choose?
Which of the 3 does the most damage usually?
Which is best in PvP?
and anything else you can think of
(Answering your questions in order)
BM is functioning relatively well right now.
They made a few changes to the abilities in regards to pets and crit.
I choose BM because I like fighting alongside animal companions.
BM is usually the top of any damage fight I have seen when it comes to hunters.
BM is usually the top in random battlegrounds for all hunters.
The fix to animal companion only cemented the spec for me. I am not a fan of the current Melee Survival or Marks Men at all.
BM is sometimes fun for mythic+ but boring in general. I don’t like having a lot of pets so I only use it sometimes to play KFC in 3s.
MM is basically a caster and a turret. Many would easily los u in arena but it still has a good spot in bg due to high burst damage.
Now for survival, it is by far my most favorite spec. MSV is a good change and min-maxing and hybrid range is what makes it fun. You have all the sustained damage you need while you kite and a secure kill with mongoose bite. Controlling cc chain and utilites is much more fun than other classes. I boosted 2 hunters and level up 1 because I can’t get enough of current survival. But it does not shine in pve and I am not sure the reason why cuz I simply don’t care about pve other than weekly 10+. Thug cleave is my go-to comp in 3s and with disc priest, survival is also unstoppable in 2s.
I would say if u are down for 2s,3s in pvp then survival would be your spec. For rbg and random bg, I think people would prefer bm or mm than survival.
BM is so-so. I play BM and I like BM but I used to like it more in Legion so I’m a bit salty. It has the best performance right now, but it’s a bit clunky. I dislike how Barbed Shot does too many things at once, and refreshing Frenzy stacks can make you waste the cooldown reduction to Bestial Wrath. But it works fine enough if you have enough crit to proc Wild Call a lot and you can stop caring. GCDs on cooldowns is especially annoying for BM since we hit Bestial Wrath so often. Of course BM has the plus side of having all instant casts so you can run nonstop while dpsing.
I actually quite like the current MM, but it’s a bit weak at the moment, and it has less utility than having a pet, plus I like having pets to tank for me when I solo, which MM is not that great at. The rotation is fluid and easy, with a lot of movement between Aimed Shots, and the main cooldown Trueshot feels powerful.
I don’t like melee. I also never liked the idea of how Mongoose works.
Most of my choice comes down to which specs does the most dps between BM and MM, and if they’re equal I’ll take BM since it’s a bit easier and I like having a pet. Even if MM is stronger, I’ll still use BM for solo content.
Historically MM does the most damage, but BM has been the strongest of all 3 specs for all of BfA. There was like a month during BoD when MM was strongest then BM got buffed.
I don’t know a thing about PvP. I’ve heard MM sucks. The meta PvE build for BM uses high crit, which is bad for PvP. So I believe survival is the better pick but don’t take my word for it.
BM - good numbers, easy to play.
MM - stay away from this.
Surv - pretty good.
How I chose spec - I liked the idea of being a sniper so I chose MM. Now it’s a joke spec.
Most damage - BM or Surv due to all instants.
PvP - surv or BM. Stay away from MM.
Not really. High crit builds are exactly what you need to execute people in pvp. Standard non crit damage won’t help you much.
BM is top for dps right now, imo. What I like about it best is that all your abilities can be used while moving.
MM is all ranged. I really like this spec, but after your burst damage openers, the dps meter nose dives. In bgs, it is almost impossible to kite some other classes and after your burst damage, if your target is after you, your doomed. Unless you are on a cliff or hill, HE trap and explosive shot to blast them off (a ton of fun).
SV is what I mostly play. Up close and personal, with an ability to go pure ranged if you need to for a bit. I like the animations (I use a spear or polearm). Recently, I simed my toon and changed up my talents. For M+ dungeons with all the trash, I do much better with viper’s venom, hydra’s bite and wildfire infusion with latent poison as azurite trait. In raids, or single target, change the first two talents to alpha predator and guerrilla tactics.
Works for me, might be different for others.
Probably the same reason there are bad DHs.
Crit is nerfed for PvP. Crits do 1.5x damage instead of 2x damage if I’m not mistaken. You will get significantly higher dps by using other secondary stats on your gear instead of crit for PvP.
Most players are bad for a lot of reasons. The amount of buttons to press doesn’t end up being a deciding factor, unless you drop it down to spamming just one button.
BM: My main spec, I like the tankiness of the pets, the sustained damage in PVP, the mobility for raids/m+ mechanics, and imo it is the best spec in the game for solo content, given you can push high dps numbers with big survivability
MM: Really fun to switch to MM from time to time. An absolute blast blowing people up in random BGs. Not as much utility in M+ since I usually run LoneWolf for AOE damage increase, but still pulls it weight and am usually top dps. Really shines in single target or burst dmg scenarios. Whereas BM does the majority of it’s damage through pets/beasts (e.g. kill command from 40 yards away), MM’s shots “connect” with the target which mechanically feel really nice. If that matters to you.
SV: Current meta (and only option) for competitive arena, great leech and passive healing for leveling or solo content, fast and proactive game play. Feels a little weird from a class fantasy perspective that Kill Command is in the rotation but it works well. Pretty bursty AOE damage. Despite all the hate that melee SV gets I quite like having the option. Transmog options are leet.
But to answer your overarching question, I chose BM as my main because I love the powerful pets, the option to tame different beasts throughout the world, and the solo play capabilities.
I like bows and I don’t like pets.
MM it is
BM is right now kind of the best spec right now and is more hands-off to play, plus has the best pets. MM is the weakest right now, but is the farthest shooter at the cost of punishing close combat. And Survival is the most fluid to me with a some cool dots and is debatably the most mobile, being melee.
You pick your spec by picking BM… doing anything else will just cause you to complain on forums.
Why is it that half the people posting good things about MSV are not posting as hunters, or they are posting as level 10 hunters?
Warcraftlogs shows BM ahead of the other two. However, SimC has BM as the worst of the 3, and MM in fact as the third best DPS spec in the game.
Some of this, I think, comes from the relative capabilities of the two. BM is substantially stronger than MM (and miles ahead of SV) in M+, so BM is often the stronger pick if you want a single spec to optimize that’s good at both raiding an M+. BM also wins pretty handily in AoE, both in terms of general potency and in terms of ease of use. BM is also arguably the easiest of the 3 for soloing, and the strongest of the 3 for PvP.
BM also has complete freedom of movement. MM, while it is only rooted in place around 20-25% of the time, those periods come in fairly long blocks of 2-2.5s casts. As such, MM is much more punished by unexpected or unpredictable movement or knockbacks, or by poor planning with regards to more predictable movement timing.
So, the vast majority of raiding hunters are BM both because it’s a less punishing spec, and because it’s more viable in other end-game activities than MM. This, plus the lack of vulnerability to movement-based damage loss, skews the numbers towards BM, despite the raw sim DPS favoring MM.
Still, both pull their weight just fine.
BM(X-Wing): Only played it to obtain Hati. Its Focus regen is Energy-like(which is handy) and it’s quite decent. Its damage is well sustained and done mostly through the main pet, which provides for a seamless, hands-free experience allowing the best mobility of all three on account of the hunter. It has two different power cooldowns and well-defined stats. No doubt the best go-to.
MM(A-Wing): This is the spec that obtained a record solo 5,500 HKs/4 years in Stormwind and Ironforge. This spec is the best at burst, capable of halving most class/spec’s HP in 2-4 globals. With Camouflage the spec can be confused with the Rogue class as it is currently one of the best stealth specs in the game. Critically, this is a most excellent RDPS support, capable of three gap-openers and a couple of snares. With ideal positioning the spec does really well, but folds under pressure when positioning is compromised. The lack of CC makes its offensive and defensive capabilities suffer, deeming it unworthy as a mainstay DPS. As a hardcaster, its overall damage uptime suffers, though not to the extent as others such as the clothies. Despite that it can use pets, it suffers the most out of pet utility. It’s also the one spec that doesn’t obtain an extra Aspect(as BM does with Wild and SV does with Eagle).
SV(Y-Wing): An excellent MDPS support with excellent sustained DPS, though it is greatly lacking in burst. Enjoys a decent amount of pet utility. Bombs(nades) coupled with Carve/Butchery provides awesome AoE capability. Despite it being a melee spec that is relatively less mobile, it boasts the best ranged capability(even also with Eagle Aspect cd). The spec does enjoy a baseline stun, but has little in the way of defensive CDs. What it does have is insufficient: Sticky Tar talent only slows down white hits, Roar of Sacrifice provides no true immunity from crits(making crits into normal hits), and Mending Bandage is a channeled HoT that only clears some DoTs and thus easily cancelled.
I went with MM, because as I started since WoD, its burst and stealth potential could have easily been matched with that of a Rogue. A ranged Rogue along with the Hunter toolkit had the potential to go places in WPvP. As Hunters are also anti-stealth, it was a stealth spec that with skill, could not get opened from other stealthers.
I’d say it would be MM for PvE and BM in PvP.
BM. If you were paying attention, it was the one spec I didn’t say was a support DPS. Support is never going to be better than main.
Inspired video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iec-otO4VPQ
BM is currently the best spec for anything related to pve. it has good single target, great aoe and can do all damage on the move, since the death dance build the rotation has become simple and easy and hardest thing is just manging a pet.
MM is different, it relys on hard casts for damage, you need to preplan movement and trueshot usage while also not keeping trueshot on cooldown, it has very poor pvp cc, healing, damage reductions but it has amazing sustain dps and great burst, the aoe is ok in m+ as ive pulled some pretty good numbers in 19-20s, the single target is also good. it only loses to bm due to mechanics most the time or the skill of the player.
Surv i dont know anything about as ive never played it, if i wanted to be melee id roll a dh/rogue.
I choose to only play MM, because i like being the under dog. i like to play the worst spec but still accomplish what others cant.
Im currently 2500+ in pvp so i got elite
Im 8/8 mythic and part of a hall of fame guild.
Im 2366 io which is top 10 hunters on my server.
So being the worst spec i was still able to accomplish many high end goals in both pvp/pve.
I just hope for shadowlands we go back to bring the player and not the class/spec.
Ok I am going to give to you my login information so you will do all those things with my BM Hunter too. 