How to make wow pvp not a joke

#1 remove rated arena from regular wow and have it only on something similar to a tournament realm where you can make any max level character u want and u have access to all the gear you want.

#2 make it so the rated arena on these separated realms are using the tournament rules.

#3 make rewards from the rated arena realm transferable to your regular character only if you have a max lvl character of that class on the regular game that is the same as what u played on the rated arena realm. rewards from PvE and other things in the regular game arent transferrable to the rated arena realm.

#4 make this rated arena realm free to play or just have them buy the game but there is no sub fee associated to play on these realms. Keep the sub model for regular WoW.

boom the game is fixed, arena is no longer a joke and blizzard makes a ton of money. Literally hundreds of thousands of new players would join the game to play on these realms and the regular game too and there would been an actual esport scene.

I posted this weeks ago but they instantly deleted it and gave me a 1 week ban :face_with_monocle:

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With good reason.

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Good ideas but unfortunately they wont go for it because RPG.

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which would be…?

Free gear and free to play for arena? Are you kidding me?

Lets undermine the main premise of an MMORPG and give everyone all the gear all the time at 0 cost and screw anyone else doing other end game content, they have to pay and gear up.

You deserve to be banned for such nonsense.

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You read his post? The main game wouldn’t be affected

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It’s not even that outlandish of an idea, he is basically just saying that competitive arena should be isolated to a tournament realm with standardized gear (much like the old arena tournament realms, where you could earn the Vanquisher title to be transferred onto your retail character).

The current retail ladder is so defiled by PvE gear that tournament players don’t even try because they know that most matchups play out much differently on the tournament realm.

I don’t agree with his free-to-play model, but it’s just an idea. No need for the dramatic knee jerk, you’re not going to be hurt

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Yeah, nahh.

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I call bs post it on imgur

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all very great ideas to be honest.

i have wanted a gear-free pvp forever now.

its just so dumb when gear matters this much for pvp.

and now matters more than ever

pve gear
azerite traits
essences
etc

so silly

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Your reply shows how clueless you truly are. Go back to gd where you belong

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It’s also odd watching tournaments because the gameplay differs from what happens on live.

The commentators have to point out that there are no PvE trinkets. Maybe other items are restricted too.

So what you see during the tournament isn’t what you’ll be able to experience when you try playing on retail.

It’s kinda like a false advertisement.

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DUDE i don’t wanna play a well designed pvp game i wanna play an M M O!!!

those things arent mutually exclusive i hate this argument so much it’s so stupid

“we should accept these design choices because ‘it’s an MMO!!’” every time gear is brought up.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Original Guild Wars had some of the best infrastructure for player versus player in any mmorpg i’ve ever played

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WoW stopped being an mmorpg a long time ago bud…aside from the “massively multiplayer online” part.

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If you want a gear free pvp environment go play a first person shooter.

People should be rewarded and receive some sort of small edge over competition in arena for winning and being higher rated.

Its always been that way. Well with exception of the last 2 xpacs where they removed vendors and tried to cater to little kiddies who play COD and Overwatch, LOL, etc.

It’s an mmo get over it.

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This guy gets it. Getting gear and stomping your enemy is what this game is about. To all the lazy complainers Id recommend fortnite, its more your speed.

Also funny how the highest rated PVPers in the game dont use tank trinkets or have high ilvl with priority stats. Its all the duds that complain because they dont want to put in the effort to get gear or get good.

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Gear is fine customizing stats is part of the game and without it pvp would suck. Having to grind endless more than a full time job to be competitive is trash for the game though.

how do i show u that the topic got removed it just says that my account was put on hold.

Yea maybe for a casual mode but as an esport it will never work… thats why it got removed from MLG back in wrath. You can have both btw arena on the normal game with pve gear and COMPETITIVE arena on the arena realms.

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There’s actually a decent amount that do have those items

You can just get high without them because most of the people playing fotm/abusing these trinkets are absolutely horrendous, the skill gaps generally aren’t even this massive and it requires absurd throwing on their end when the game is designed around you never being able to make a mistake

That’s the only reason some of the consistent players are that high. Most of the rmpal, and destro lock teams are not even close to subpar in comparison but still play at the same rating and beat most of the best players tbh

Kinda weird to me though that after a year of the same meta the fotm players haven’t improved which is unheard of in my experience, usually being fotm and playing high rating gives you the chance of getting much better but that’s stopped happening for a majority of the cases now

My biggest gripe is PvP gear doesn’t give optimal defense or offense, PvE gear gives both. In the past PvP gear gave you the best defense in PvP; and PvE gear gave extra damage so it was a fun balance. Not having that whatsoever sucks.

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Youre not smart.

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High level arena players usually have completely different goals and ideals than the rest of PvPers so maybe segregation is what we need.

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