They genuinely kind of suck. They lack any interesting lore. And I’d like for most of their playerbase to go back to their worgen mains now.
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Horde has a severe lack of Badass orc leaders. Thrall is a calmboi with anduin, and Grey’who? Needs her own unique model. They also need to put her out into the wold and get her to do things.
I don’t know who I’d want to exterminate first. The elves or the vulperas.
Issue is, her backstory is tied to an awful plot line that is either never coming back or is years away from coming back. She’s also Thrall’s time sister and they haven’t done anything with that. As for her personality? As generic as an orc can get. Genuinely. She’s like Garrosh-lite.
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This is true, but I feel like she is so neglected and forgotten that they could turn her into anyone they wanted to at this point. Just do a short recap in dialog and go from there.
They should’ve done something unique with her and maybe made her something other than a Warrior or a Shaman. Of course, they also knew Saurfang was going to kick it and that Thrall was coming back so they wanted a Warrior leader to balance out the shaman leader. Oh well.
Ah, ok so this is a serious conversation. My apologizes. Well I’m not entirely sure how to improve the Horde. An absolute authority like a Warchief simply hasn’t worked because once an egomaniac gets the reins it’s back to war that the Horde always loses because Blizzard cannot have the Alliance suffer a loss. About the only canon loss is back in Wacraft 1 I believe.
Honestly I always thought the Horde did well as a scrappy underdog like faction. Not quite having the numbers of the Alliance but making up for it with stronger units and guerilla warfare. Hit hard, hit fast.
The Horde had their disaster in the second war which is something they never actually recovered from. First by Doomhammer losing a fair fight becase half his army turned traitors and then Ner’zhul destroying Draenor and almost killed what was left of the Orc race. Since that point Thrall had to work with scraps and made uneasy and bad decisions which never worked out the time being when the Orcs almost starved due to no access to trade and Garrosh starting a civil war. The obvious conclusion should have been either not bringing the Horde back at all in Warcraft 3(Durotar is crap be honest) or actually let the Orcs win in Warcraft 2 so the humans are forced from a position of weakness so most of Azeroth stays a battleground til the legion arrives and does the scourge thing.
Perhaps but I find Durotar fits Orcs quite well. A rugged inhospitable land for a rugged almost inhospitable people.
If you can’t find to give the Horde any story then reviving them with Thrall was pointless from the get go.
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Agree that Alliance is pigeon holed into the “good guy” role, or more to the point the “stupid guy” role. To the point they won’t ever strike back against the Horde even when they should. The few times someone like Genn did it is usually pretty ineffectual and frankly justified because of whatever the Horde is up to at the time.
Alliance, because of this pigeon holed role and having Anduin as their “leader”, never get any satisfying resolutions either. At the end of both the Theramore and Teldrassil story arcs Alliance players are forced to accept the fact their is no retribution nor resolution to the atrocities the Horde committed against them.
Alliance players are expected to just shrug their shoulders and go right back to being buddy buddy with all the Horde players once a threat they need to “team up” against rears its head.