How to improve Classic

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We all know there are problems with Classic from uncompleted classes i.e. Ret Pally, enh shaman, and Tank Pally to limited class tier sets (specifically designed for only one spec).

The solution is pretty straight forward to these problems and during the Covid pandemic it is beneficial for Blizzard to take action to improve classic.

I understand many people say “no changes” but that is not what is in the best interest of the game.

Solution:

Add a mid tier raid that has tier sets for the non tier specs.

i.e. Fury tier set, Feral tier set, Enh shaman tier set, ret pally tier set.

But Ruc , some of these specs are not raid viable.

Well, that is an easy fix as well. Lets take the most “meme” spec there is Enh Shaman. A few simple fixes and it is no longer meme and can compete in raids with a tier set.

  1. WF proc increased for Enh shaman to 45%.
  2. Relic Added that gives shocks crit % = to melee crit %.
  3. Add a melee AE attack similar to cleave or whirlwind.

But Ruuc, these changes will make the Enh Shaman OP, in reality they will not, they will bring the Enh shaman on par with other classes in a raid setting. While maintaining their disadvantages in a PvP setting. Also, with appropriate tier gearing this will make each of the “off specs” viable.

Simple changes like this can be added to Ret and Tank pally to make them viable. Fury warrs just need tier items and druids need appropriate tier items for viability.

This would also give the devs the opportunity to add some other trinkets and weapons to the game to change or have alternate BiS lists for each class. Also, gives the opportunity to add for Fury tank warrs as well.

My 2 c,

let me know what you think.

Ruc

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I think they should keep classic as classic and not make it retail.

:cactus:

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Yes let’s make gear that will ultimatly make every raid encounter even easier than it already is. Great idea!!

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who said the new raids had to be easy?

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I don’t know this. I actually reject the idea. Even the idea that Ret or Prot paladins have no place, and that they were specifically designed to heal. Raiding is (imo) a small part of the game. It’s something we sort of have to do, for a couple or few hours/week, so that we have gear to do the other things.

If one spec is more optimal for a particular class in that setting, that’s absolutely fine. In fact, I’d argue that that enhances the experience.

I mean, even if we were to take the claim seriously, if we think through the process of specifying requirements for such a feature, design iterations, approval meetings, etc. and then actual implementation, does anyone actually suspect that something like this would even be possible given the “during the Covid-19 pandemic” constraint?

While I think these are very interesting, and fun ideas to think through, and maybe even implement, if WoW was the type of game that supported user created mods, like Diablo and Path of Diablo, the one thing I think we can reasonable say “we all know” about the ideas in this thread is that they will not be implemented in WoW Classic :slight_smile:

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New raids? No. Giving out new tier gear for different specs would allow all upcoming raids ( AQ/Naxx) easier. These are already going to get cleared day 1 by guilds, why introduce new gear to make it even easier?

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I really love the little cactus you put after all your posts.

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Classic is fine, and the last thing it needs is nonsense like this.

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Not concerned with the health of “the game.” The game is here to serve us, not vice versa. Ergo, No Changes is best for us.

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It sounds like what you want is retail. We aren’t going to see any new raids or any new gear sets in classic.

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For a less tongue in cheek response, OP consider that retail is precisely this; all the “obvious” changes that “most players” want, to “improve the health of the game.” And they aren’t wrong! WoW is/was very popular! People love popping on and getting into a raid/dungeon immediately. They love whatever spec they choose performing adequately in all game environments, heck I loved it for literally a decade.

So your changes WILL do as you wish; change the game to be more like what the majority want.

But you already have that, and turning our game into that one deprives us of ours while duplicating yours for very little reason.

*some convoluted sentence structure there but I think it is all technically comprehensible…

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So they can do even more dps than all the other classes in the game ? :slight_smile:

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no changes

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Go play retail if you wanna be a little snowflake and play your meme spec. Otherwise have fun getting declined.

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Paladins are already nerfed, why not nerf other classes to bring them in line? Nerf hit to DW and change Bloodthirst back to pre revamp. Revert the spell damage coefficient to life tap and revert the rolling ignite change.

Done. Everything back to acceptable levels. Well, except warlocks, but that requires actually nerfing instead of reverting a change.

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Some of these things were added in TBC, which seems to be coming eventually. Why not just wait for that? There are plenty of people who like Classic the way it is. Don’t change their game.

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sigh, again, its not about retail.

Everyone here missed the entire point of the post.

The classic experience can be improved.

This would improve that experience.

The “go to retail” spam response was expected. Which is why I actually commented towards that in the original post.

Expected at least a few well thought out responses about the classic experience.

Which is why people discuss “classic plus”.

This is a means to that end.

Open your eyes

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No, we got it. It’s the same nauseating crap that’s been posted time and time again here for the past 2 years.

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The problem with hybrid specs is the incredibly high ilvl equivalent necessary to bring them up to par compared to other classes. Paladin can possibly get to around 8-900 dps in naxx gear that is ilevel 90+ which would need a boost to around 150 in comparison to warriors.

I advocate nerfs that benefit pvp and pve such as reverting systemic changes

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All you really need is extra mana regen and spell hit for hybrid classes.

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