You want gear balanced around an activity that’s essentially dead that attracts very few players. A broad premise of social contracts is we do things which affect the most people impacted.
“just play tank or healer” about the same logic as telling homeless to “just buy a house”
I think you’re vastly underestimating the amount of people who run Mythic raids.
Nevermind, just trolling.
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Pot calling kettle black I see
Not even remotely analogous. Nice try.
I also said (at the very least) don’t berate people that are trying to tank or heal, if you’re not going to play those roles yourself.
If you want more tanks and heals, let them learn and get experience, and give constructive criticism or point them to information.
Snarky comments like yours aren’t a solution.
Neither is just telling people to play more tanks or heals. Anyone with a brain will ask themselves WHY people aren’t playing tank like they were in dragon flight, not just say to play them lmfao.
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This is literally the solution to “the problem”
Well looks like your solution isn’t working and it sucks lol
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The fact that you’re insisting on taking an antagonistic posture here is what sucks.
You’re also ignoring the part where I also said to not berate tanks and heals, if you’re not going to play those roles yourself.
I wonder why you don’t want to address that part 
“I told them to tank! Why aren’t they tanking? I mean yeah I refused to ask or ponder why they aren’t tanking or listen to specific concerns, but just telling them to tank should fix the problem!”
Literally you
Ok have fun trolling the forums. Putting you on permanent ignore now. Have a good one.
Because that part is a moot point. Heals and tanks have always had to deal with people berating them but their numbers are still down from dragon flight where it was very easy to find tanks everyday as opposed to now. That’s why.
Hahahhah he’s so mad that’s he’s low IQ
Im a healer every single expansion until this one. I switched to dps because healing sucks and not tanking either because I dont want to invest all my freetime developing routes and skips and researching packs for efficient forces % in order to play, when I can just go dps.
People who want to tank, go ahead. Hasnt been a huge problem in previous expansions.
Just telling me “hey be a healer” doesnt address the reasons I stopped wanting to heal in the first place.
I personally dont want to lose 15 lbs per dungeon and ruin all my clothes by turning them yellow from sweating profusely in order to barely keep people alive on every single pull.
Healing sucks this expansion and the sheer amount of work required to invest in being a successful tank, planning routes, skips, forces %, knowing which packs are the best for forces has been a hard turnoff for most since BFA. Its only worse now that you need to learn every spell that every single monster casts in every single dungeon because if you dont literally plan around using defensives perfectly you just die, which typically leads to group wipe/failed key.
Much easier to just go dps and not have to worry about all the overhead and energy expenditure. These days you can only do like 2-3 m+ as a healer before you need to be done for the day because its so mentally and physically taxing. It’s literally a workout.
no, you cannot have the best gear in the game from trivial content. stop it. naughty.
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Since when is a +20 considered trivial content and since when is gilded crests “best gear in the game”?
Gilded crests are literally required to upgrade “heroic” gear which literally drops from Delves.
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Heroic really shouldn’t drop from delves either, but 636 crafted with embellishments are absolutely some of the best pieces in the game.
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Yes, 100%. Agree with everything you said.
It’s much easier to play dps, which is why for 20 years there are way more dps than tanks or heals.
Hence why I said the “solution” is for more people to play those roles, or at least not berate the people who are trying to play those roles.
I also didn’t say I’m necessarily against balance or tuning changes, but your reply sort of implies that I am.
A large part of why there aren’t as many tanks and heals is player behavior. For 20 years people have acted terrible to others who were trying to play these roles.
People generally need to be less antagonistic, less of a loose canon, more forgiving of mistakes, especially in queued content, and lower M+ keys.
People aren’t going to want to take on the extra responsibility and effort to play those roles if they get berated when they’re first trying it out.
That’s all I’m saying. It’s not a controversial opinion to say that poor player behavior has led to fewer tanks and healers at every point in the games history.
636 gear requires a whopping 90 crests to craft, is capped, and already drops from +8, as well as the insane cost to actually craft a max quality item itself using only the best resources/materials.
It’s not that big of a change and addresses the issues spoken about by Ion in his interviews, where people who do delves have no incentive to run lower mythic dungeons in order to learn which is leading to a drop on m+ participation.
Therefore, if they want things to change, they will need to make changes. If there are no changes, nothing will change.
Easy solution there: Delve difficulty is increased or rewards are decreased.