Make Light of Dawn a 10 sec cooldown with a mana cost and generates 1 holy power instead of costing 3.
Revert the Infusion of Light changes.
Remove gcd on Beacon of Virture or cause it generate holy power on cast.
BOOM. FIXED. HAPPY CAMPERS.
(Edit: Check my paladin post below for final thoughts on how to really fix Holy)
I like the idea, but then we only have 1 Holy Power spender for healing, which seems awkward and sort of makes Holy Power useless for us again.
I would prefer them to:
halve the cost of Crusader Strike
make Judgment produce 1 Holy Power
I think that would COMPLETELY fix Holy spec 100%.
Or you know⌠increase the amount of healing the heals do. Its obviously not working right when a Protection Paladin out heals a Holy Paladin
P.S. Stop using Crusader Strike
Bring back Holy Radiance, but as a Holy Power spender, since Holy Radiance was a targetable circular AoE, give it competitive numbers and problem solved. Light of Dawn always felt like it should have been the generator not spender anyway.
Also replace Glimmer with âEternal Flameâ.
Also make the Legion talent âBeacon of the Lightbringerâ baseline.
Judgement should have a 100 percent chance to reduce the holy power by 1 of your next spender. And I think we would be OK. The legendary that has the 50% chance feels like it should already be baked into the kitâŚ
I feel like Iâm going to have to go heavy into crit when playing holy just to feel any power while healing. And its gonna be awkward in PvP because my haste doesnât feel high enough and without the crit I can barely keep up with 2 players wailing on a player.
Also why am I so squishy?? Does my gear just suck. Iâm watching disc priests kite 3 players around for MINUTES at a time and I can barely handle ONE INTTERUPT and Iâm dead without a cooldown.
Right now I donât think numbers a problem. Itâs the quality of life and the way the class feels is very rigid so they need to incorporate holy power generation to many abilities considering our freaking regular heals are really expensive compared to what other healers have.
ThatâsâŚlikeâŚterrible advice yo.
Here is terrible advice (but might actually work)⌠Heal as prot spec lol
Might be an unpopular opinion but I donât think Judgement should generate Holy Power. It would push us too much into a fixed rotation.
We already have a HS and CS (if mana cost is reduced) that are already kind of give us a pseudo rotation but thereâs enough room still to do other stuff, adding yet another short CD generator like Judgement would make for a more rigid gameplay where you always cast the next spell in your ârotationâ.
I also donât think LOD should be turned into a builder because of the same reasons and because I think we should have to make decisions on how to spend our HolyPower (if anything I think it just needs a buff to make it more competitive).
So what then?.. I think that if the goal is to make Holy Paladins care about mana the answer is not to just make CS super expensive, the pseudo-rotation of healing trough Holy Shock, CS, and spenders should be our âlightâ rotation that does some ok healing at close to neutral cost (or very low) and we should have some more costly spells that we use that break that cycle but allow us to funnel more mana into healing, so perhaps a no-cd but mana expensive generator (Holy Radiance perhaps).
TO reiterate on this thread as my PALADIN, not my mage (weird glitch):
Crusader strike can keep its fairly high mana cost but these changes are NEEDED and then I can shut up and enjoy my class forever and all eternity
-Infusion of Light changes reverted
-Holy Light/Flash of Light casts under Infusion of Light grant 1 holy power
-Light of Dawn: 10 second CD, 15% base mana, Generates 1 Holy Power instead of costing 3
-Word of Glory: Now heals depending on amount of holy power consumed (1-3)
-Avenging Crusader (Level 45 Talent) in addition now also causes Holy Shock, when used offensively, to heal up to 3 targets for 150% of damage dealt
-Awakened (Level 45 Talent) removed: Eternal Flame replaces Word of Glory.
-Beacon of the Lightbringer baseline
-Beacon of Virtue (Talent) either off GCD or generates holy power upon cast
This one I highly doubt they will ever put in but I just thought Iâd add it for fun because I LOVED cheesing this in MoP when Beacon of Light was off gcd lol.
These changes are simple and can easily be implemented. Please guys, we really need to be vocal about these changes so that we can enjoy holy paladin again.
How to Fix SL Holy:
Get to level 60, finish the campaign and hit 40 Renown for your Covenant (I strongly recommend Kyrian), get all of your Soul Binds and all of your Covenant Conduits and see how much you like holy, then come back here and tell us if Holy needs to be fixed.
How do the disc priests do it? Kite masters.
You have a beta invite for us than cowboy?
I wish I could. I am trying to do a good job Beta testing. With so many new systems in the game, it is challenging.
The infusion of light change single handedly killed my hpal for me. They really need to revert it along with fixing their current mana issues.
The infusion of light change is really awful.
Please just give us fast cast holy light back.
I know itâs too late to ask this but holy power doesnât feel good when i really only have one spell to use it with. I donât like this class design decision. Make holy light a button that feels worth pushing.
I did this on beta, Feels even worse
Did you use conduits with holy?
People complaining about Holy now⌠just wait⌠first Tier of Shadowlands is even worse, the current meta is constant Holy Light spam with a Holy Shock and Bestow Faith added in, itâs because of the Resplendent Light Conduit that makes Holy Light a splash heal.
The Infusion of Light nerf is horrible, slow Holy Lights are horrible, now slow Holy Light spam is going to be our BIS meta gameplay. Elune save us.