How to Address Premades in Classic Battlegrounds

And premades aren’t every team now.

They’ll be common enough for you to run into the issue, though. Same as now.

I’m uncertain what you’re getting at.

You clearly didn’t read my OP.

What I’m getting at is premades are right now the Meta.

If you break that meta, a new one will take it’s place. If you’re not willing to do whatever that new meta is, like you’re unwilling to premade (and yes, I read your specific situation) you will arrive at the exact same situation- unwinnable games because you refuse to follow the meta.

Your situation will not improve. You will succeed in making the game worse for everyone.

No it’s not.
“Separate educational facilities are inherently unequal,”

  • The Supreme Court

2 completely seperate systems are inherently unequal, no matter how you cut it. One groups has to deal with ranking premades, the other doesnt. They also get the same rewards. It’s not the same thing because the level of competition in the premade group is significantly higher than the pug group.

My softball team in a local league is not the same thing as an MLB team. Even though we only play in our respective leagues. And if you think they’re the same then where’s my multi million dollar contract?

Except separating the queues would not create unwinnable games as both sides would be drawing from the same pool of players for premades and pugs.

Here you go with the weird and uncomfortable threats again.

What you’re saying is that you are intent on abusing the system at any cost to achieve rank.

I’m saying I intend to make that as difficult as is humanly possible for you.

This system has no loophole. You will play fair, or you will quit.

Seems unlikely, given that more alliance premade than horde.

Exactly, premades are inherently different that pugs which is why putting them in the same queue makes no sense. And your analogy is false, what’s happening now is the equivalent of matching a preformed team which can predetermine a number of important qualities like composition and general attitude vs a group of completely random people.

I’m sorry you consider telling the truth a threat. Your parents could have done better.

I’m saying you’re a dog with no teeth. You have no power to do even the most basic part of what you’re saying, and you know it.

Keep barking, little doggy.

And pugs don’t? If you don’t want gear- then they should put in a system that matches pug v pug, with no honour, and premade v premade with honour.

Now that’d be a dead bracket- since the reality is pugs want the same thing premades do- gear. They just don’t want to have to make a team to get it.

Kind of like non raiders want raid gear without having to bother with making a team, something Blizz eventually gave them with LFR.

Yes it does, WHEN THEY ARE COMPETING FOR THE SAME REWARDS.

Having the desire and having the ability are two very different things. The players on my server don’t run premades, and by all appearences, nobody is interested in helping me to start one.

Furthermore, the gameplay in pug v pre isn’t at all attractive to me. I would be more interested in premading if it were limited to pre v pre.

Which is comparing apples to oranges, because not having to look for groups to run dungeons would inherently change the nature of the game; where as battlegrounds feature the option to queue for the content and always have.

Right so premades shouldn’t be given free wins, pug vs pug is the equivalent of premade vs premade in terms of effort.

It’s a fair game in both situations. You’re still more likely to win with a premade team if you constructed it well as far as composition is concerned, and if all of the players you invited are of quality.

You’re a compete idiot, those groups put in more time and effort than you. You’re a garbage player, and probably a garbage person since you can’t make friends. You deserve every loss you take.

Explain that to the pug player who didn’t make even a quarter as much honor playing fair games for twice the amount of time.

Y’all are not willing to exert enough effort to even play pre v pre games, you’re just tossing them and moving on to the next pug to stomp. That hardly qualifies as effort.

Lol you get really riled up when the hypocrisy of your position gets pointed out.

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No, you’re using circular logic to get a reaction so he’ll stop replying, exactly as you intended.

You deserve to lose if you solo que. Go back to BFA

My hipcrosy?!?! Go continue getting farmed. You deserve it