How strong are the Aspects at full power?

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There’s all this talk about the Dragon Aspects needing to regain their full power, and I’m wondering what to expect.

I can’t actually remember what the Aspects were capable of at full power. I can remember them infusing a portion of their power into the Dragonsoul back in Cata, but I can’t remember what they ever were like when they were full on Titan buffed. They’ve been as they are now for as long as I can remember.

What am I not remembering?
What can we expect the Aspects to be like when they’re all super mojo’d up again?

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Nozdormu is the biggest example. Juiced up him and his flight were almost always busy traveling the timelines, now even predicting things is hard for him.

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Deathwing will come back as a good guy.

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Compared to the world eater or Darkeater Midir, the aspects are a joke.

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Let me put it like this.

In the War of the Ancients Trilogy Alexstraza just casually made a stone statue alive and a copy of herself (or was it of Krasus? It’s been a minute) and basically said it’s just something she could do as the Lifebinder.

They could create life out of nothing. They could control the magic, and Deathwing could literally gouge giant ravines into the ground as seen in Cata. And he wasn’t even trying to do tons of damage, just strafing.

The Aspects are the most powerful non-Old God and non-Titan (yes they are Titan made, but not Titans themselves) thing on Azeroth IMO.

Also Deathwing was evil but Neltharion… Malygos always remembered him well but seeing everyone else’s memories of the guy I feel for him. Dude had to live with evil voices in his head for thousands of years and an immense burden. He seemed to be good, his flaw wasn’t his own unlike Arthas but rather an external affliction. I’d like a simulacrum of him to talk to at the very least.

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Another feat I remember is Malygos. He had the ability to drain all the leylines putting the planet itself at risk while also weakening every mage on azeroth.

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I should also correct this.

Yes they did that, but they did it far far before. 10,000 years before in fact. In game you have never seen the Dragons at full power. They first infused their power, just a bit, into the Demon Soul(originally called the Dragon Soul) because Neltharion presented it as a way to help the world, that all the flights would combine their powers into it.

And then he never did (edit: as in, he didn’t put his own power into it, because any flight who put their power in it would be powerless against it. So in this way, he gained invincibility against every other flight), and used it to strike down the flights. When they flew out to fight the Burning Legion Neltharion used it to strike down all who opposed him, nearly wiping out the Blue Dragon Flight (And in the Original Timeline, not the one we are in thanks to the War of the Ancients Trilogy, the Blue’s did indeed all go extinct sans Malygos).

From there it was just bad news. He later loaned the now renamed Demon Soul to the Dragonmaw Orcs, who used it to enslave Alex (Dragons can’t overpower it as it has their power), whom he then forced to… well she had alot of children which they used to ride into battle.

Suffice to say the last 10,000 years have literally been one bad thing after another. They essentially created a WMD that only works against dragons.

And the funniest thing? In the War of the Ancients it’s basically point blank said that Noz knew the betrayal was coming and what loaning his power to it would mean but that he couldn’t do anything about it since it was the natural timeline so he had to let himself act the fool and be betrayed by a betrayal he knew was coming.

The Dragons have always been my favorite “faction”… and they have always been arguably the most powerful. It’s just they are at the end of a long line of humiliations all wreaked by one of their own, and then lost their powers. If they were at full, full power- that is before 10,000 years ago- it was clear that even the Burning Legion would have been turned to ash. Or at least the burning legion that invaded Azeroth at that time, which obviously wasn’t the whole thing.

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Yup and that is weakened Malygos who basically had just gotten everything back together. If you had Malygos in his prime… or Alex in her prime… or especially Neltharion in his prime? Anyone they pointed themselves at would surrender before the war started.

Which, it should be noted, is also why they didn’t interfere to much in the affairs of mortals. Almost like a Prime Directive. They only interfered when to not do so would be catastrophic, as they realized any inteference would drasitcally change everything.,\

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So when we seen the Aspects infusing the Dragonsoul with their power in Cata, that version of the Aspects was actually an already weakened version of themselves because they had done this same thing before with the Demonsoul? Do I have that right?

With the talk of the Aspects regaining their power in DF, are they going for their initial Cata level power or their super duper power from before the Demonsoul?

*head spins…

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You got it 100%. This is them in their twice weakened form, after having been beaten up for 10,000 years due to their first weakness.

Though I would assume that they would regain their power circa the start of WoW not 10k years ago. Simply because originally they put in a substantial amount of power but not so much that it would impact them.

They just never imagined one of their own would betray them. Which is what really hurt them the most.

Malygos losing some magic hurt, but seeing his flight decimated drove him mad.

Alexstraza losing some life power sucked, but seeing her children literally torn from her and forced to fight, and die, for the Orcs hurt her worse.

Noz and Ysera… IDEK what they were doing tbh.

But the point is the beatings the flights took as well as the power that was stolen via fraud led them to being a shadow of their former selves by the time WoW started.

And even that shadow was still probably stronger than either faction…

Edit: I highly, HIGHLY recommend reading this especially with Dragonflight, along with Day of the Dragon and Night of the Dragon.

Well, it won’t let me link to wowpedia but just google War of the Ancients Trilogy.

Old books, written around vanilla WoW. I remember when I was in Boy Scouts I would take them on every camp out to reread… they are so beaten up it isn’t even funny. But if you can find a copy they are great reads, even if some things aged a bit poorly (IE, Vereesa’s attitude seems different than later on, and everything about Rhonin hits me right in the feels).

Also, you get to read about the best Orc ever, Broxigar!

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probably their level before the demon soul but honestly? I think them getting their powers back is probably a more long term goal. I find it very likely the only way for them to truly get their powers back is to see the titans themselves…or a homeworld they inhabited. But who knows, it could be possible in one expansion. After all most didn’t think Argus would be seen in Legion.

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They are literal on the level of demigods

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It makes sense. It’s all a lot to process, but thanks to you explaining everything in a way that’s pretty easy to wrap my head around, I feel like I have some basic understanding of the Aspects’ power now.

It’s no wonder Mal and Noz went mad?

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I know nozdormu could easily manipulate time if he wanted.

The bronze flight can only travel thru it at their current power

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Happy to help!

If you ever want more in depth info don’t hesitate to stop by the Story Forum as well. I am but one of many posters over there and everyone has their own opinion on what is written and what can be interpreted.

But yeah, Malygos going mad is extremely easy to understand.

Not only was basically his entire flight, sans a few eggs Krasus saved, wiped out, but he also lost his best friend. Neltharion and Malygos were best friends going back to the days when they were Proto-Drakes, before they were empowered. Neltharion provided the muscle and the “confidence boost”, Malygos the brains. Alexstraza was their friend and Ysera essentially her shy sister who cared about others. Noz was… still Noz lol.

So Malygos lost his flight to his best friend in the world. And the one he would always go to if he had a problem. He was left broken and alone, no joke.

And Noz… yeah. Having to maintain all the timelines will drive anyone mad.

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I don’t know the difference between manipulating time and traveling through it. Can you give me an example what you mean?

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GO GO POWER RANGERS

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Think if Back to the Future where they could only travel. But couldn’t really do much like change events.

Like in the 2nd movie. Imagine if they could go to the future, talk to folks. But no ones able to grab a lot of sports almanacs to take to the past.

The best they can do really nowadays is more a gentle nudge to relieve some time lines. As seen in their quest in the Dragon Isles.

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I have a feeling we’re gonna find out by the end of this expansion.

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And it will be GLORIOUS. And if we are extra lucky maybe even a tank spec for Evokers. Maybe.