Well jaina has been with quiet a few odd guys so a warlock isnt out of character.
Nah, not really. We have seen absolutely zero percent to substantiate the claim that Elune has absolutely any power over death at all. Thus far itâs entirely been night elf legend. She certainly could not stop a banshee from zambifying her chosen people.
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She⊠literally did the exact thing the pendant describes to a dying Ysera.
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Then why did she not for her night elves?
Because, as much of the thread has concluded, Night Elves are permanent residents of the worf-fridge. They have to perpetually have bad things happen to them to prove how bad things really are, and to galvanize the Humans into action. And a deity who intercedes on their behalf ruins that role for them. Same reason no Wild Gods care about them anymore.
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Idk. Elune being the ultimate god that makes night elves correct about everything and also linked to everything (what isnât she linked to? Elements? Probably!) leads to massive night elf fatigue on my end. Especially after Legion.
While I empathize about losing your starting zone (even though the Forsaken also lost theirs) and would be fine with you beating Sylvanas up (please, kill her so that her last extra lives are used up!), Iâd still be ultra miffed to find night elf focus in a death themed expansion.
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Who else are they going to use? The Humans with no Death themes at all, and an overbearing, fatigue-inducing presence since Wrath?
No other Alliance race has a Death thematic, unless they bring back the Draeneiâs death priests (which is what Iâd ideally prefer).
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Taliasâs daughter? Terenasâs daughter? Letâs not even pretend that Bolvar will maintain neutrality here. Weâve seen how neutral factions always bend, in the end. TBH focusing on death themes as night elves for the alliance is as offensive as focusing on humans for azshara.
Do not speak if the lightborne abomination, heathen. The story is better without blatant pandering masquerading as a meaningful development. You canât have her in the story without kicking the Forsakenâs narrative twice over.
And bringing up Taliasâs daddy just undermines her own development.
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I thought Talia was the mother. Itâs been a while since I last played.
Those are individual connections, yes. But not on a cultural scale like Elune, Bwonsamdi, the Auchenai, or your entire people being dead in the case of the Forsaken. By that token, Night Elves still get a piece of the pie trough the Court of Farondis, the Blackrooks, their ability to call on wisps, and⊠/sigh⊠even the Forsaken Night Elves.
Though, since I usually forget how different they are, I admit Kul Tiran Humans have a Death theme by virtue of their druids and Drust magic.
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Are you sincerely implying any race has been more affected by death (besides the Forsaken) than the human race?
This is all immensely subjective what you just said here, and the idea that your defining feature for why theyâre boring is that the Horde doesnât have the same over the top extreme power fantasy is definitely subjective. Isnât this the same argument between those that find Superman boring, and those that find Batman weak? Also, no ⊠the writing in BfA is NOT struggling because of the âHorde Focusâ. Its very clear that this expansion was pushed out the door far before it was ready to meet a quarterly income quota; the game mechanics and severe content droughts are a testament to that.
Beyond this, based on basic story structure (to some extent like WoD), this narrative screams the idea that Blizzard started at an end point and then attempted to work its way back to fill in the holes afterwards (VERY likely to set up the next expansion); its a prologue, only the ending really matters. Considering this âCONCLUDING POINTâ is likely fixated heavily on Sylvanasâ âTrue Objectivesâ (evidence enough exists in their hamfisting her into the Warchief spot to even justify this expansion) ⊠Iâm unsure this is so much a âHorde Issueâ.
This expansion, like it or not ⊠is likely very unimportant on the Meta narrative. its a massive amount of setup for future content (the Void Elves; the Lightbound; the Old Gods; the Shadowlands; the DragonflightsâŠ) with a Faction Conflict label painted over it to try to distract from that fact (just look at the laziness of the War Campaigns). Its very likely nothing more than a vehicle to get the characters and factions where Blizz wants them, to move into the real story they want to tell; and the Horde is every bit the victim of that short sighted writing as the Alliance is.
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I hope Tyrande smites her with a holy bolt of elune or something. Sylvanas is a power character, but not on the same level as Tyrande, or even Jaina for that matter.
The night elf fatigue is real when they keep going back to the ancient highborne and showing that story⊠the ancient Night elf stuff was cool for the part of azsuna⊠but got old in Suramar.
I honestly believe the team that created the night elves of wc3 did not work on them in Warcraft⊠an ancient people does not have such a quick shift in paradigm like that. They went from Near feral savages to tree hugging hippies.
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Iâm saying there are a few races with a stronger cultural connotation of Death as a universal force than "We had that real bad undead guy that one timeâ.
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Not only are you downplaying Arthas, youâre completely ignoring that it was the human perspective, not the night elf one, with which Blizzard introduced the Scourge.
The Fall of the Human Kingdoms were as much the Scourgeâs doing as the orcsâ.
Can you at least recognize how crappy this is to read as a horde player, though? The issue isnât that the horde gets focus, because both factions ought to be in an expansion. The problem is that the writers explicitly wanted to redo MoPâs âhorde bad, alliance victimsâ stuff because they thought they could do it better this time, without having bothered to justify why the horde should be considered to have any good elements in between the two expansions.
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And now that perspective belongs culturally to the Forsaken, and to a certain extent the Blood Elves (and DKs of all races). Only a few other individuals have ties to that, like Talia, Bolvar, and Jaina. Jaina and Talia do not make Kul Tiras thematically tied to Death. And neither does Bolvar to Stormwind (especially as his conditionâs supposed to be a secret⊠a poorly kept one, but still insist that it is).
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Youâre 100% wrong (save about the Forsaken.) Stormwind was the last Human kingdom. Survivors of Lordaeron fled to Stormwind. Eluneâs one sentence byline in no way at all makes the night elves remotely related to undeath, especially over the human race.
I canât believe you claimed that the Night Elf religion is what does it. You do know the paladinship was made specifically to fight (orcs), demons, and undead, right?
Not undeath. Death as one of the six cosmic forces. It encompasses undeath, natural death, and the afterlife.
Exactly. They combat Death with the Light. Light is their cultural thematic (along with martial skill), not Death.
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