I can’t say “who” exactly but I believe someone (or something) is. He got a model update for BfA and generally, there is a reason for it. I personally believe it has something to do with the Sunwell being reignited.
Is it odd that I am speculating that Vol’jin being brought back, as a semi Light based being, is somehow Kael’thas’ doing? Idk why but I have that feeling. The Sunwell has resurrected before and restored soul to body. And if there is no body, it can restore a soul. Sure, it makes more sense to claim that it has to be some Naaru or what not but eh. Maybe I am odd.
Yeah. I find it odd that they list most of the Circle of 6 first and then leave Kael’thas below all of them- who was also a member of the Circle of 6 lol. They aren’t “more” powerful than he is. He was on par with the Circle of 6 and even surpassed them in a lot of ways.
Agreed. Kael’thas hasn’t had quite as much time to shine as others towards the top of that list, and I think that the amount of time characters had affected how that list played out.
Personally I’d like to add Rommath but he hasn’t really done anything that we’ve seen to really rank him up there. My instinct tells me to put him with Kalecgos/Thalyssra, but another part of me points out he wouldn’t be Grand Magister of Quel’Thalas if he wasn’t stronger than that.
The thing about Kael’thas, is that being high elven, made his powers far greater (keep in mind that it was his/our people that taught humans magic to start with- so in that alone, I feel it is unfair to list any human above him). He surpassed the Circle of Six with his telekinetic powers.
Like this list:
Should have been as you listed them. Since they make up most of the Circle of Six. They were all on par with each other (other than Kael’s telekinetic powers, like I said).
To be honest, Kael’thas always felt like he would’ve been stronger than Antonidas just by virtue of his birth. Being the Prince of Quel’Thalas would mean he would have access to repositories of magical knowledge and power far beyond what Dalaran should have collected. Antonidas always felt stronger in my mind because he was the Head of the Council of Six, but part of me always reasoned that Kael’thas never was eligible for that position due to his position as the heir to the throne of Quel’Thalas.
True. But for Kael’thas, it was really about leaving that closed off elven bubble. He had an open mind and wanted to see the other races and the world. He wanted to explore and socialize, unlike most of the royal family or his kin. There was always bitterness, over being forced to share a birth right- in exchange for their lives (still angers me that they were forced with that choice). Either way, yes. I can’t say he is more powerful than Antonidas but I would rank him closely behind. But far more powerful than Jaina, in who Kael’thas educated while she was in Dalaran. He was her tutor.
It is very safe to say that her scale and skill, is very much owed to him.
Hun- If he was lesser than these 3, he would not have been a part of the Circle of Six. And he was. I get what you are trying to do but it really makes no sense. The Circle/Council of Six is based on those with equal or near equal power. Or those who have made a serious contribution to the world of magic and thus, seen as equal on these grounds. The Council doesn’t say “Let’s induct this person here, who we know is pretty weak and hasn’t done anything to contribute to the world. Just—here. For no real reason.”
Listing someone based on who YOU think is the most powerful, is fine but doesn’t really make sense when comparing them to OTHER members of the same Council. That’s my take on my understanding.
But I believe his lore video would better explain. Since this topic IS about how powerful HE is and not how powerful everyone ELSE is.
Just start it from the beginning. This is as accurate as lore can get.
There are a lot of people on the council of Six who are less powerful than those three. In fact, most people on the council of six are less powerful than those three.
“The Six are usually the most senior, but not necessarily the most gifted. They are chosen by several means, magic but one of them.” -Day of the Dragon
That alone invalidates most everything else you have said, and I do not consider Nobbel a reliable source of lore, since he is wrong most of the time.
He was quite strong. That said, that fight can be partially attributed to the power of Tempest Keep. Which had been pumping mana into it from the mana-forged around Netherstorm for a bit. Power that Kael’thas was using.
He’s being constantly pumped with all that energy from the manaforges in the Netherstorm which are literally being piped into Tempest Keep and he himself personally… at the cost of reducing what was once a viable and fertile land to the wreck that the Netherstorm is now.
There are infants freshly born today conceived when this post was young, but you necro’d it because you were bored, and you didn’t even construct anything worth posting… you absolute mouthbreather.
No, just no, the San’layn are cool enough on their own without that loser, besides the San’layn got created due to Kael’s idiocy in leading them to attack Arthas in the first place. Him being one of them would just go over soooo well wouldn’t it? For all his power, he really lacked in common sense. He is in Revendreth for a reason.
A possibly 10,000 year old Nightborne practicionor like Thalyssra doesn’t count?
Yes, after those setbacks in Tempest Keep and Magisters Terrace, yes you are.