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Most posts I’ve read on the Classic forums are full of positivity, insight, and sound advice leading Blizzard in the right direction for the future of WoW.
Occasionally trolls and retailers come by to complain about “toxicity” while trying to muster the will to log into BFA and help a turtle make it to the water.
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Awful games dont grow to 8 million players.
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How is it bait? Not everything you disagree with is “trolling”.
It’s a hard truth, but a truth all the same. Vanilla was unpolished, grindy, and time-consuming. The only reason we liked it then is because it was all we knew.
You know, in order to play Classic, you’ll have to put a star on your belly.
Because it’s clearly an attempt to provoke a response. If Vanilla is so bad, then why bother posting here?
You act as if we don’t know what we’re getting into.
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If that’s the case, this entire thread is “bait”.
If classic was so bad why did it end at 8 million subs at a time when 500k was a huge success for mmos and pc games?
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Classic wasn’t bad, it was quite a great game, but it changed, it evolved, now it’s just one of those things that ppl look back and say “those were the good ol’ days”.
You know when your grandparents keep complaining about how the world is today and say the 40s/50s were the best times ever even though life improved by a hell lot now? Well, it’s pretty much the same thing.
Wow is a better game now, it’s more balanced, it is easier for new players to learn how to play, it takes less time online to improve which is a great thing for people like me who work over 70 hours/week and, well, overall is just a better designed game, but we do have one thing called nostalgia and that’s powerfull as hell.
Its also more homogenized, less flavorful, and less of a sandbox and more of a lobby
Its lost a lot of the social element and focuses on individual over group
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That’s not necessarily true, if you take a look into RP servers you’re gonna see that’s not true at all… as for “regular playing”, wow is a theme park MMO, so in some ways it is less flavorful than a regular sandbox MMO, after all you can indeed reach “the end” of the game.
I do agree that it lost a lot of its social element, but that’s just how ppl are nowadays, people are less social, they don’t like to interact for a lot of stuff, it’s boring, it takes a lot of time, I don’t have time to keep spamming the trade chat looking for a suitable DPS for my PUG, most people don’t have that kind of time available anymore, so the game just adapts to the new reality its players live in. In that case the problem is not much the game as it is the players, but I do get your point and I partially agree with it.
"All change is not progress, as all movement is not forward"
-Ellen Glasgow
Somewhere down the line, we also lost something very important in my opinion. Easy is not always good. Hardship builds character and teaches one to overcome obstacles, in a self reliant manner. Nowadays, many expect things to be just handed to them and when they can’t get it, they throw a tantrum. So sure, we have on paper better living, but the cost is a western world population in almost apathy regarding the things that surround them. All the tech around has mostly neutered us into non self-reliant beings.
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A lot of them will quit, but I’ve been thinking about the nightmare scenario in which a chunk of them don’t and demand changes to it.
I totally agree, but we also gotta understand that boredom is not the same as difficulty. I agree, effort should be rewarded, things shouldn’t just be handled freely, but let’s be honest, the game was not that hard back then and it is not that easy now, yes, it is easier for people who don’t have a lot of time to invest in the game to see the content, it is easier to be able to enter a dungeon or a raid, but back then the main difficulty was not dying of boredom while trying to do it. The game is faster because life is faster nowadays, but the game is still pretty hard if you like raiding or running M+, that’s the main thing that changed, you have more options. I like raiding, I rather spend 10h/week wiping and figuring out how to beat the fight than farming mats so I can get all the potions and oils I need to be able to raid.
Can we get classic with LFG/LFR and High Elves?
I’d say they’ll last longer than you.
I am not really a fan of the retail game… At all. It would be a fair assessment to say that I very strongly dislike the game. That said, I have absolutely no issues at all with the playerbase. If that is a game you enjoy then more power to you! It is a recreational leisure activity and I’m glad it brings you joy!
I am excited for classic release. I played beta classic long, long ago… Played through most of classic, and came back for TBC. Enjoyed classic thoroughly. I felt battlegrounds detracted from world pvp. I did not enjoy the “canned pvp.”
I don’t see why there needs to be a barrier or distinction between retail players and original classic players. I fear that there will be some form of “racism” so to speak in classic because of people who have attitudes like you.
I, for one, hope that many retail players jump in and fall in love with the game. The more the merrier… Likewise there may be some classic players that hit end-game and decide to try out retail and find out they thoroughly enjoy retail too…
In fact, this is not especially likely, but there is a chance that classic will encourage more of a community to emerge out of retail. Those LFG and LFR parties might actually start to communicate. It is a pipe-dream but it is a comforting thought I like to adopt.
Inadvertently you may have made the very point of what Classic is all about.
In the 40s and 50s, there was no air conditioning to speak of. Most people didn’t have phones. If you wanted to talk with someone, you went where they were or met them someplace. The thought of going to <insert name of local big city location 200 miles away> was a huge trip that had to be planned for. Vacations were mostly unheard of, unless it was taking the entire family to Coney Island for the day. No one really had a lot of money, they lived in small houses with lots of people in them. Usually you shared a room with your sister or brother. A small three bedroom house probably had six people living in it. There was one car shared between mom and dad, and generally speaking dad had it at work and mom stayed home.
But … there were mountains to climb. Everything was possible. Anyone could be anything with hard work and perseverance. It took a lot of walking and there were a lot of obstacles in the way, but with perseverance, ingenuity and guts, you could make it through. And when you did, people around you knew it had taken work and time to get there. And anyone who had it “handed to them” was looked down on. You had to earn respect and your place in the community.
Funny. Sounds a lot like the difference between Classic and Retail.
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I see no reason why exactly this can’t be the case.
You come into the game new, play Classic for 60 levels - then you hop over to BfA, blow through those same 60 levels in a few days and then go on playing retail from there.
It’s not a big leap to see it working that way.
Well, I did enjoy Vanilla and I’m probably gonna enjoy classic, so I’m not really speaking against it, I do hate this “those were the good ol’ days” crowd, it’s stupid, it’s annoying. The old days were good, but today is better. I was born in the early 90’s, my entire childhood was playing football, chasing after girls, swimming in the lake when we went countryside to visit my grandparents, climbing up trees, skateboarding with my friends, playing make believe… well, sometimes I see some kids playing on their phones and I say “man, my childhood was way better”… it actually wasn’t, but the nostalgia makes me think it was… that’s the thing with a lot of people, nostalgia.
Is that all you are on here? Some low rent grammar nitpicker? That would be pathetic enough, but it’s truly sad when you realize that you’re not even correct in your nitpicking.
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