Planning on rerolling a new pvp main, have narrowed it down to Monk, Pally, or DH. How is WW in pvp? How does WW compare to Ret and Havoc in pvp?
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Really strong. WW and DH are top tier right now and ret can be depending on comp. WW gameplay is really engaging and fast paced. DH is fast paced but not as fun in my opinion. And I haven’t tried ret.
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Which handles enemy melee better between WW and Havoc?
WW has a disarm and FoF (constant parry) on short CD with Karma and fortified brew as well. And they have a slow/root that the DH doesn’t come with.
DH has blur, darkness, the flying talent, and insane movement.
They are both really good vs. other melee.
Which one can disrupt and kill healers better?
Disrupt goes to WWs. Kill goes to DH. However, if WW is running Pressure Points you might be able to ninja delete a dps if healer isn’t looking.
As for how WW PvP is in general. We’re strong but we have to play defense a lot. We can’t charge into 1v2s and come out either even or on top like we used to be able to. We have probably the highest skill ceiling between the specs/classes u mentioned. Our strength is our burst and mobility and some off heals, but outside of that we’re essentially weaker rogues w/o stealth. If you want to go the easy route, play ret/havoc and oogabooga your way to victory. If you’re a masochist or really hate ret/havoc, play WW and get really good at it and start filling GYs with the bodies of your enemies or just outrun them.
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Ty for your input. How do warriors compare to Ret and Havoc in pvp now? They got a 5% buff to arms. I don’t much about warriors although I would be interested to try one out. Also, I’ve never played a class that has an anti-heal ability so that would be fun. Since apparently Blizzard likes this trend of everybody having self healing.
Do you think it won’t really be as ideal for me to roll a Dk now that Dks got nerfed?
I don’t know why people are even comparing Ret to WW. Outside of 1v1s Ret has zero chance outside of you not timing ToK correctly to cancel out their wings.
I would choose Monk over anything but Havoc if you plan on doing RBGs at all. As a Monk in RBGs you perform the same task as the Rogue would. Get behind enemy lines and pester. Unlike a Rogue, you have the ability to get back out without needing stealth.
Havoc imo gets boring really fast. You have the most minimal rotation in the game, as well as having zero group utility outside of darkness, which if we’re honest, is only good in 2v2 melee enemy teams. You also don’t have to be an elf.
That wasn’t healthy for the game when we could do that
Honestly depends on who you ask. I’d say it’s healthy if we could take on 2 oogabooga specs like ret, dh, fury war because they’re way easier to play than WW and the vast difference in skill cap between the specs even with just our standard dps rotation.
One class shouldnt be able to take on multiple people. It was dumb that I could solo to 2200 in 2’s as a ww back in mop
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Sushi on Youtube. 1v2 Feral Druid to 2200 THIS SEASON. 1v2 SV Hunter to 2200 THIS SEASON. Monk may not be able to do it anymore, but perfectly played Feral / SV Hunter absolutely can.
Yea… but i’d say it’s dumber for a class that is easy to play to be able to outperform a class that is difficult to play. Even more so if there are player quantities involved. Not really a fan of the quantity over quality style of PvP that i’ve been seeing so much of this xpac.
you know who thinks a WW standard rotation is hard? trash players. stop saying combo strikes is hard. bad look.
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WW isnt hard now, it plays a lot like havoc
it aint hard, but it’s still ahead of what dhs/rets/fury wars have to do.
You mean havoc plays a lot like WW, except they’re far more spammy and button mashy.
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this is true but incorrect at same time.
I agree that a class being able to just easily 1v2 is ridiculous and the first thing that it makes you think is broken, however this mentality and statement only applies to a game like BFA
I disagree because, like I just said, MOP was way different than BFA, MOP you had the potential to 1v2 and each class had insane amounts of tools to do so if you knew how to use them, which is why you’d always see streamers 1v2 on any class VS any class
You dont see very much 1v2 nowadays, reason being is because each class has significantly less tools & decisions to make it possible even vs bad players
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Besides myself and another ww on the eu I didnt see that many 1v2 to 2200 in mop. I say it wasnt healthy because it was part of the reason we were nerfed going into wod. (Not specifically that other guy and I but in general) what other streamers were doing it?
Blade Dance for DH is arguably better than WW’s FoF parry. It makes them dodge 100% of attacks (front AND back…yes, you can dodge attacks from the back with it, unlike FoF parry) for 1 second every 4-5 seconds. If used correctly, you can predict kidney shots or other physical stuns and just completely dodge them. Lost count of how many times I’ve missed my Leg Sweep on DHs because of this.
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Uhhhhh… buddy WW isn’t rocket science compared to other classes - especially in PvP. They’re extremely strong and fairly braindead in design now. Turbo fists is fairly toxic to play against and WW damage is amazing for not having to press all that much.
Why are you pretending you’re better than Ret/Havoc/Fury when WW is effectively on the same level?
True last season, not this season. DH was especially good at running down healers and OOM’ing them but Lucid has kinda been a soft nerf to them that us seen a drop off in usefulness of DH vs healers.