I’m curious to know in what precise moment the alliance built a memorial for terenas. When Arthas came back from Northrend he killed his father and ravaged Lordaeron. I remember that the dreadlords were in charge of the land while arthas was in kalimdor. So, when did the alliance had the time to build a memorial for terenas while Lordaeron was infested by the undead? The only idea i came up with is that it was built when Uther went there to recover terenas’s body but I’m not sure.
It’s possible the Forsaken built it. Many of them still cry “For Lordaeron!” in battle, so it’s a possibility that it was built after the Undercity was retaken.
Bit of a stretch though, I’ll admit.
Edit: Okay, guess it’s actually right on the nose! ![:sweat_smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/sweat_smile.png?v=6" ":sweat_smile:")
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I don’t think it’s a stretch at all. The people of Lordaeron, as far as I know, hold no animosity towards Terenas. They reserve their hatred for Arthas, his killer.
I’m not sure how much the people revered their former king, but I can definitely see them wanting to create a memorial for him, one of Arthas’s first victims when he returned from Northrend.
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The forsaken doing it makes sense to me. They didn’t have a problem with Terenas, only his son. And if they did hate Terenas and the Alliance had put it up at some point you’d assume they’d tear it down.
Interesting theory. The former citizens of Lordaeron (now forsaken) built the memorial. They weren’t with the horde yet and Sylvanas allowed it in compassion. Still, do you think it could’ve been built while Uther and his troops returned to retrieve Terenas’s body at some point?
Is it possible? Sure, but did they have the time? Terenas was cremated and the ashes placed into an urn which was then taken by Uther to Andorhal.
Several days do pass, but Scourge forces were left behind in Capital City after Arthas left, led by Marwyn and Falric. Uther then met his end fighting Arthas in Andorhal protecting the urn.
Until it’s destruction the events of Terena’s death haunted the throne room. That’s why no one ever sat on that throne until the end.
At this point nobody knows who built that tomb/monument. Some people say it was Uther forces in the third war, others say it was Garithos or maybe the Forsaken who still remembered Terenas. But what we know for sure is that tomb is empty because Terenas was cremated and his ashes was scattered in Andorhal after Arthas killed Uther.
What I wonder is why didn’t Sylvanas demolish it? Because she always say the Forsaken must forget their past as Lordaeron humans, but that tomb was there reminding every undead about the past.
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I very much agree with you. I think the best theory is that the forsaken built it but why it wasn’t destroyed later is beyond me.
I could see her rationalizing that Terenas was also a victim of Arthas. She may not be a sentimental person but she is capable of respecting people, like Varian and Vol’jin. It’s not honoring a random distance king it is honoring another victim of the guy who brought down the two kingdoms that make up the Forsaken.
This was specifically answered in the Ask Cdev.
Q: So… Terenas Tomb in Lordaeron. Who built that? Was it the Forsaken, or the Silver Hand?
A: The tomb of King Terenas Menethil II was not built by Lordaeron’s current residents or the Silver Hand; the tomb was crafted by the ruined city’s former citizens. Great were the deeds of Lordaeron’s last true king, and his people risked everything to ensure that his memory would not be forgotten.
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so a bunch of former lordaeronians risked their lives to build a memorial while the scourge controlled the area…why?
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Did you read the quote?
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yes something something make sure he wont be forgotten, but was that really so important? and how were they not caught. did the scourge just stare them down and let them finish their work?
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I’m with you, Withpuppys. It’s really nonsensical that they would do that. Blizzard should have just said the Forsaken did it.
What really happened was Blizzard’s cringey blend of rule of cool and fanservice took over yet again and created this nonsensical decision. There was another specific one like this where the timeline simply did not make sense. It escapes me now, tho.
It wouldn’t really be out of character for pre-BfA Sylvanas, tbh. The whole “you must forget your former lives or else” thing was pretty much introduced in the Before The Storm novel. It’s part of the reason why the book is so unpopular.
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Yes, it very clearly says why they did it. So it is odd you would ask.
" to ensure that his memory would not be forgotten."
Clearly they thought it was.
They very well might have been caught and killed. It seems rather likely.
The specifics are unknown. But the country did not disappear overnight. Clearly it was possible since it happened. There are numerous speculative ways they might have accomplished such a feat.
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Yeah, that quote is really confusing. Capital City was occupied by the Scourge and the Dreadlords until finally being freed by the combined forces of Sylvana and Garithos.
How in the heck did they manage to create a memorial? It would have been a suicide mission.
Not to mention that it’s crazy that it wasn’t defaced between the time it was erected to now by the Scourge.
How do you know? We don’t know how long the Scourge took to wipe out everything.