How is Ret?

heard they got a nice buff against mages.

are they viable?

S tier? A tier?

Comps that are good?

thanks for any info

They’re probably pretty good, nobody really knows yet

King melee usually can’t go to one with no Ms, but they could be part of one of the most op comps if that’s how it shakes out a la dkdh last season

Really good my male belf bro’s will still be going from 1700 to 2700 in one season and saying they’re horrible but

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Great if you want to roll your sac on the keyboard and kill things by accident.

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its too early to tell I think were in a much better spot then last patch which I think we were ok in. The freedom change is a huge buff for rets. I am playing full time this patch so feel free stop by this season if you want to see more on how ret is. Or if you have any ret questions. https://www.twitch.tv/judgejudyx

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I just went to the stream - looks like mostly some chess game.

It feels better overall. I think ret arms will be pretty strong. Ret and warrior are absolutely more squishy then DH/DK, but their damage output is going to be bonkers.

the arena season hasnt startd yet brother. Its gonna be majority wow arena/ret arena when the season starts on tuesday and raids/mythic plus. Only streaming chess cuz its offseason.

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the double freedom for melee cleave is gonna be really good.

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I’m gonna try and find another ret and hpally. I know it’s super cheese but it sounds kinda funny.

booooooooo!
okay discourse forum format, is this clear enough of a body? is this complete enough of a sentence?

fun fact got hit for a 70k tv on my hpal few days ago, idk what essences are good with ret but they seem atleast A tier

so sick of that

damn 70k is legit

Just saw an 81k. So ret’s are,… interesting.

taste magic damage, bears and hiders-behind-shields
that’s my ret impression am i ready to race change to belf

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troll with regen would be good with ret

edit never mind don’t be mean on the internet kids

At 1% health it’s a full heal inside bubble.

The last game I played against a ret/rdruid @like 2.2k mmr went something like this:

-My guy@around 75%
-I get bash stunned
-Pally pops wings
-I trinket, overgrowth my guy @like 50%
-Get dr hoj’d
-Ironbark/swiftmend after with my guy at like 25%
-get him to around 50%
-Dead before I can finish the regrowth cast

Pally got 8 templars verdicts in about 20 seconds total all between 50-75k and just straight up killed my dude (a dk if it matters) through full hots and ironbark, I prob should have ironbarked first rather than overgrowth, and used my on-use trinket, or been playing a different essence (that one that’s basically a voidstone/sac combined maybe) but it feels like if you allow the pally to have any uptime at all during wings they’re gonna kill something. The druid didn’t even bother trying to clone me, just kept chucking dam