OR enhance?
I’m thinking about starting a shaman. All i do is PvP. I know how strong resto is, and i may be interested in doing some healing, but mostly interested in ele right now.
I brought a warrior up to 60 and found i hated the zugzug style that relies on support classes to shine. I like being self-sufficient. I generally find shamans are pretty durable and self sufficient when playing with/against them, and they can pump some damage as i’ve seen.
Any PvPers out there able to give me some more in-depth opinions of the class? How are you liking it in the current state of the game? How do you feel your self-sustainability is? (I love druid because i have 10,000 ways to get out of sticky situations, and i hate warrior because it has none - at least not in solo settings)
Thanks!
Ele is in a good spot. Although they are still dependent. Shaman in general is not what most would call “self sufficient”.
ele has no ability to get out of sticky situations. it just does not have the mobility of a druid. once you are in a situation, you are probably stuck in it until you or the other dies.
that being said, with lightning lasso, and earthen harmony, our 1v1 potential is pretty solid.
Battlemaster fleshcraft hex incap totem lasso. Ele is great in 1v1 but can’t beat rogue or a decent shadowpriest. Grounding and healing stream totem keeps you up while doing the damage.
Only healer that can realistically kill you is the new necro lord dot druid in deep damp. The rest of the healers would oom or not have enough damage to kill you unless you misplay versus a h pal.
good fire mage seems unwinnable too imo.
just dragonsbreath → poly → 100-0 through shield walls and kill grounding with off the GCD fireblast.
Fire mage can’t beat a ele at all in a 1v1. We have grounding lasso earthshield hst. I’ve got like a 95 percent win rate vs 100 mages.
I’ve lost a few playing terrible but the legit can’t win with our coolies. We are one of the best duelers to casters.
how do you live through the db – sheep – > burst? cant lasso if they move out of range and grounding is useless
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I could beat almost every Fire Mage I came across till Triune became a thing .
They’re like an Enhancement Shaman that you can interrupt.
They are a lot better in duels against certain classes since they can kite forever, and they have good damage, but no way to prevent themselves from dying to the opening stun spam.
I haven’t played my ele a lot but they are great in team fights, more so than solo. That said there are classes that are greet solo and team fights…
Trinket into PE earth elemental stun certainly allows Elemental to survive the initial stun spam. Followed by either harden, or Astral Shift.
i dont usually have a trouble living openers without major offensive cooldowns popped. Earthen Harmony kinda cheeses it unless something like Wings / Avatar / Beserk are used.
and if those are used thats when you need to trinket wall or trinket lasso or something similar.
If you take that soulbind which fears the enemy at 20 percent , it guarantees that you survive and be able to reset the fight by healing yourself up if you follow the fear with a hex.
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oh thats smart. i hadnt even thought of that. i rarely switch from marileth for pvp.
The bad thing is that you lose the potency spot for primordial wave reset and will have to take a finesse item but it ensures survival if getting trained by melee. It’s good for 1-1 but I don’t know about arena .
We just have so much survivability with fleshcraft and marileth shield they can never burst through with combust with grounding stopping a couple globals and lasso when no trinket. Mage Rogue sure you’ll die, Mage vs Shaman Shaman can just break shields on lasso in opener and survive with HST Flesh, BM, Earth Elemental and Hex (astral shift+ pet wall any go)
maybe thats the issue, they arent sniping your GT. and yeah if they let gt get value your good.
Just force the combust waste 1-2 globals of damage with grounding. It’s really simple even if they snipe it as soon as possible.
you know fireblast isnt on the gcd right?
Yes but you can force them to blow their load on the meteor all in and get a pyro and a couple fireblast on their big go pretty easily the moment they combust.