How is a person supposed to get gear if they don't like delves?

If you respec to Arms before opening your vault it might give you a 2hander

As a smf war, I hate that I can’t target 1 handers lol.
I have to be in fury to get 1 handers and dps trinkets, but all I get are 2hs.

She forgot pvp. But you shouldnt. Theres only one game in WoW and thats Battlegrounds.

problem with delves is it made party leaders think 619 is the bare minimum ilvl to even consider even at the lowest keys.

alternative is running your own key and hoping people will not look you up or be scared when they see your total hp lol

*just do the delves tbh. sure it sucks but it’s temporary. you outgrow them pretty quick at the end of the day.

You have M+, Raid, Delves. If you don’t like any of those things then you’re ready to play an alt or unsub. The idea of maximizing vault is not to fill out one row, it’s to fill out 3 rows… if you still have bad luck then yes that sucks but if you didn’t make your own luck then you can’t really complain about it imo.

Do you didn’t do them bountiful? and use a key to get 603 piece at the end? Can always do M+/Raid…

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You invite yourself…when you create your own group…

m+, pvp, world content, crafting, raids.

This whole thread makes me think you would be happier if you just quit wow. A very common situation to be in so don’t feel bad about it.

There are many paths to gearing up by pugging but all require more effort then you seem willing to put in.

If you really want to stick with wow the best choice is to make friends to do pve and pvp with. Gearing by pugging requires 10x as much effort to get past heroic lfg than it does with a steady group.

do the weekly quests for each faction then go to the quartermasters and buy gear from them. I’ve gotten my fresh 80 pally from 490 to 576 from those alone.

I read your entire op. You’re lazy. Bountifuls are guaranteed to drop a 603 but you instead want to just walk into M+. We know this because you claim to have spent 100k+ gearing up. You can’t even be bothered to do the work to get the gear, so I would hope no one wants you to go in their groups.

You’ve been given the options, you just don’t like them. This isn’t the game for you.

If you’ve been playing and playing and playing doing all world quests, etc., how is it that your Renown rank with the 4 factions are so low? Though, maybe you only have some of the possible world quests or something given it appears that you have yet to complete the main storyline.

The same way you always did??? Normal raids, heroic raids and mythic+??? The weeklies?? like what kind of question is this.

4 crafted items as well that is easily 619 from the renown tracks… It sounds like you are saying “How can I get good gear without doing anything”

get crap gear and mog it to look good.

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You are trolling. Most people have given you nothing but kind and helpful advice. Which you then ignore and say no one wants to take you or you are bad or whatever.

I am on my 7th or 8th toon so far this patch. I was able to get two toons KSM and AoTC through pugging so I hit those goals.

Now for alts. I have been easily able to take an fresh 80 alt. Spend a couple K on 567i gear from the AH. Then do the world content. ie, bosses, events. I do the weekly rewards event. After that, I have a few keys for LV8 Delves. I run one or two of those. Then que for LFR. Both BRD and Current Raid. After that I am usually sitting 595i. I join a fresh Normal PuG for the raid. At that time I am geared enough for +2 keys. So I run those with no issues, be it DPS or Tank.

After the reset, I am over 600i and can generally pug lower keys and normal raid every week, with little to no friction. While still doing 2 +8 delves for a heroic vault piece. I only catalyze champion or heroic pieces into tier, and usually have 4 set after on the second reset.

Gearing up past 619i is where I hit my wall. Pugging that level content is a lot less consistent.

Why am I telling you this? Since it is nothing but what everyone else is telling you. I am telling you this as a demonstration of personal experience with gearing through PvE content as a PuG. Up to about 610i its pretty efficient and fast.

I am capped on all renowns so I use my 4 tokens for a weapon and belt/boots ( or other non tier slot depending) then I buy all the missing renown armor slots which are vet/champion, then i do the weeklies. Then you can do w/e I do delves because raiding annoys me.

I’m fighting vertigo atm so I’m not bothering to read everything in this thread, but I saw the OP has learned about bountiful delves. My two cents to add in case it hasn’t been said yet is that you can earn I think 4 keys each week. You may have a stockpile already, but once you work through them, you’ll only earn 4 keys each week.

Do 8 bountiful delves anyway. You can run them even if you don’t have a key to open the end chest. 8 bountiful delves gives you I think 616ish in all 3 bottom slots of the vault.

And make sure you run them on tier 8. Lower level delves give lower ilvl rewards. And Brann only receives XP from bountiful delves.

I did all the work to get the gear what are you talking about. I did all the farming of every single cent it took to get me to where I am. You’re just a prick with some hostility issues. Leave me alone . Please. Go find someone else to be mad at for no reason. Seriously.

I’ve said multiple times I haven’t done almost any pve at all since I made this character. You call me lazy that’s fine you have no idea what you’re talking about. You just wanna come and start stuff for no reason at all just because you seem to think everyone who plays is just apparently supposed to automatically know everything. Lmao. I’m not lazy at all…I don’t mind doing what needs to be done as made apparent in this thread more than multiple times. You wanna just come to people’s threads who are legitimately asking a question just to be a jerk off. It makes no sense. Whatever feeds your ego pal honestly…we learned we were children if youndont have anything nice to say then don’t say it. Did I ask you how easy it was for you…no…did I ask you how many toons you have…no…but for some reason you seem to think that because you did something that is just automatically supposed to apply to everyone and if it doesn’t then they are just bad. You’re a child.

If I was lazy would I be asking what to do and doing it? Literally while I’m typing this? If I was lazy wouldn’t I not want to ask questions and figure out what needs to be done. Are you so freaking dense you can’t understand that someone who doesn’t know something needs information so they can do it. What are you on the forums for just to tell people how special you are? Seriously…look at yourself and realize you’re being a jerk for no reason at all. Other people in here were nice, answered the question and had a discussion like actual adults. Try that out sometime.

I buy my gear from the PvP vendor.