I like how Blizz is justifying that Arcane needs the overdue damage buff, but is only doing 8%.
Come back when you’re serious, Blizz. I don’t believe this’ll do much of anything. It’s not just the damage, but the whole of the spec. The spec needs a rework from the ground up, imo.
I don’t disagree, however just going back to Legion arcane with the shoulder legendary trait as a passive/talent (as has been suggested here numerous times) would be preferable for me.
However, that would mean that they admit they made a mistake in the BFA iteration. So they will totally reinvent the wheel next expac like they did with BFA to push new systems that were supposed to give us build diversity, but instead pigeonhole our choices to a specific few.
And unless your spec is literally broken, don’t expect anything but numbers tuning the whole expansion, because reasons. Maybe I am just a jaded former arcane mage.
They’re not going to overhaul a spec this late in the expansion…maybe it’ll be fixed next expansion but I hope it’s not at the cost of the other 2 specs…
This.
Our best bet for an overhaul is Patch 9.0. It’s not going to happen mid-expansion.
All we can hope for now is a numbers buff to hopefully make the spec competitive with current mechanics.
8% doesn’t seem like enough, but I’m also not going to test to see if it is. I’ll probably just stick out frost until the end of this expansion.
I watch top players doing mythic + and they go oom after every pull lol. The group keeps going fire and frost while doing more damage. Arcane just sits there eating after everything, and has to do no damage and invocate.
hahhaa. What an absolute joke.
Don’t forget that this 8% is on top of the 6% we received a month or so ago. 8% is pretty significant for ST and while it doesn’t solve our overall issues, it’s far better than we have received in the past.
At this point, with BFA winding down and the possibility they may not even have an 8.3 (this comes from streamers, not me), we should be happy they acknowledged us at all. I’m doing 235k AB’s with no potion or gimmick on crap quests and the world boss today so I’ll take it. Keep hoping that it gets that re-work but in the meantime enjoy what we got; it could be a LOT worse.
Hmm 235ks must be nice. Won’t let me post this on my mage for some reason…
Well that’s arcane power + rune of power + 4% versatility buff from lucid dreams minor essence + almost 440 IL. I’ll try out the damage with a flask and potion later on but the point is that we should be happy we got anything at this juncture and keep hope alive for 9.0.
Must suck needing to drink after damn near every pull to do what someone else can do better and not need to drink.
Tough.
Why do you post on a shaman and constantly tell us arcane mages what we already know? I’m not arguing that drinking constantly isn’t a pain or that we don’t have issues; I’ve been pretty clear that we do.
My point is simply that this is the best we’re going to get this expansion so we might as well accept it and appreciate it for what it is.
After some further testing I am seeing a noticeable difference in DPS thx blizz
It’s a hopeful sign that they’ll realize mechanically there’s something not right with the spec. Flat damage buffs don’t address the issue but I would think the fact that arcane has needed two buffs this expansion due to it’s performance would have SOMEONE take a look at the spec and see why this was needed.
I’m hoping for a 9.0 return to arcane.
I thought the comment that went along with the noted change was of more interest than the actual percentage buff. Perhaps it suggests they are aware of mechanical problems but are not willing to do more number tweaking than broad aura buffs given the amount of time remaining in BfA.
As others have said, at least it is an acknowledgement that they have not completely forgotten about the spec. Quicker implementation of aura adjustments would be nice.
Developers’ note: We feel Arcane needs a significant bump in their damage based on their performance in a variety of content.
Tried out arcane with the 8% buff last night.
Mythic Ashvane is a royal pain. We’ve been stuck on her for something like 2 months now. Currently at 127 wipes.
On the upside we’re getting closer. 6% on best attempt last night and that was with 3 dead. If everyone had been alive I think we’d have had it.
Personally, I think Ashvane is overtuned on Mythic. A boss fairly early in the raid shouldn’t be such a hard check on progression.
Ashvane is a dps/gear check, at this point a lot of guilds are just 2-phasing her.
Yup.
No way is my guild going to 2-phase her though. We might be able to 3-phase it and get our first kill if absolutely nobody dies (well except for the pally bubble-absorb tank).
I don’ think gear is going to help us either. Most of my raid is fairly well geared and we are running out of avenues for further gear upgrades unless a gigantic titanforge drops. Our problem is probably things like lack of player skill, mistakes or people like me playing the wrong spec.
So you’re saying that you are fine with Arcane being broken as long as the other two are fine? Well, frost and fire have been pretty decent all through BFA, so you want to be selfish and have Arcane be broken if it means it ”won’t be at the cost of the other two specs” then I hope it is at the cost of the other two.
To be fair Yagur, that’s not really what she said. I don’t think in a game that’s 15 years old, with a company that’s worth billions and a huge team working on it that ANY spec should suck. You shouldn’t have to play rock, paper scissors each xp and have the loser be garbage for 2/3 to 4/5 of it. They should all be competitive and that goes for all classes, not just mage. But Blizz’s track record isn’t amazing with that so her concern is kind of valid.
Did I say that i’m fine with arcane being broken?..NO! so don’t come at me like that dude…I want them to fix arcane but at the same time I don’t want them to completely annihilate frost, that’s not fair, I mean who wants that?..why should I be forced into playing arcane if I really don’t care to play it?..I get where people who are playing arcane are coming from really I do…why should anyone be forced into playing any spec they aren’t comfortable with or aren’t enjoying?..