How is 7 sec kidney okay?

Why doesn’t anyone talk about this or tweet at the devs?

If sub rogue (and RMX, really) wasn’t the way it was, orc racial wouldn’t be essentially mandatory. For example I hate playing my hpal healer so much because it can’t be an orc and the stuns from sub feel so much longer when you come from an orc class.

I don’t get how anyone could ever think 7 sec kidney into 2 DR cheap shots is fair or balanced gameplay. With how low the cooldown is on both kidney and uptime on shadowdance.

I understand that Blizzard wants to keep that rogue is a stunlock class fantasy, but with cheap shot spam alone this is fulfilled. This class has way too much control for the amount of damage it can deal on it’s own.

Kidney shot should make you immune to cheap shot for 10 seconds or something, if they insist on keeping it a literal 7 (6 if not talent but still) sec undispellable stun on a 20 sec CD.

There are just too many problems with sub rogue design currently, biggest ones:
-Broken conduits that nullify stealth prevention punishments
-2 charges of shadowstep (this is actually more broken than you’d think)
-Dance uptime/being able to reduce the dance cooldown by just spending CPs, comes off CD too fast.
-Being able to run duel and bomb at the same time

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Marked for Death is way better. Nobody plays 7 second kidney. Also, I hate rogue mage priest.

People do run it lol. Have you even q’d or watch rogue streams?
And it’s not like 6 sec kidney is magically much better. 6 sec kidney on 20 sec cd into double cheap is still cancerous.

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i feel ya. i can’t be an orc either. wish i could be

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I think that they really should just nerf rogue dmg. Rogues are mostly a utility spec and want to keep you from doing things but they shouldn’t be able to just solo you when you cant fight against them. You get punished for using your trinket against a rogue defensively. So if they want to keep it a heavily utility class that’s fine but reduce their damage.

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Says the WoW classic player. Yeah I’m a rogue and I have the best gear in the game. I’ve never que’d. Ever. I just magically obtained this gear and wrecked people like you and people who use that useless/trash/garbage 7 point combo you’re complaining about. Anyone who doesnt take marked for death is bad.

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Idk how common it is cuz I’m mainly a tbc Andy now a days, but swacked, arguably one of the best rogues on NA, is playing it.

Kidney is fine, just blink it

Assuming ‘murlok . io’ is reliable, 30 of the top 50 rogues in 3s are running Deeper Stratagem (this is the talent used for 7s stun, yes?) over Marked for Death.

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68% of the ladders top 50 sub rogues in 2s and 3s are playing deeper strategem.

Murlok . io

^^^ Anything else you wanna be wrong about

Tbh you don’t really need to look up how many rogues are player deeper to grasp the concept that being able to sap your own kidneys…PROBABLY PRETTY GOOD TALENT

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@Illidanar Nobody plays Deeper Trashegem. Get over it. Also if you wanna lose to me and be wrong about how you wish it was better, let me know. I’ll wargames with you and show you how bad you are. Deeper Garbagem is just as bad as you are at arena.

@Thèllè

One sec. Are you the OP of this thread by chance? Just wondering.

why are you blatantly ignoring the evidence everyone is presenting that good sub rogues (in fact, many of them) are running 7 sec kidney

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No I don’t play warlock. And too much work to have more than one classic toon

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Yeah having just 1 character is enough. Thanks to the new systems, I was able to make 2 alts, but now that all this zereth mortis garbage has to be done again… yeah I don’t know about actually playing those alts for a while. Too bad they wait until the end of a patch for such things to be possible, then pull the rug from underneath shortly after.

You’ll get Revered on your main, purchase unity and that’s kind of it, I think?

I don’t really have anything to do in the new zones on my 259 pvp ilev alts with 252 conduits.

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Glad I don’t have to grind it out on multiple characters. Thank God. Is there like some big article somewhere on all this pve junk?

Wooooooo this is some HOT talk coming from someone who’s highest rating ever is 2110 in one of the most inflated, if not the most inflated season of all time.

Get bis and chill isn’t an unreasonable way to play

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Look at the date it was achieved. Nice try. Also this is not even close to my main. I’m literally the #1 DH player in the world on top of glad with 3 other classes on another account. You lose.

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So the “#1 DH player in the world” has an alt account with full gear that’s been stuck rival for 6 years huh?

Prove it. Literally nobody believes you.

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