That would be hilarious
Was referring more to dungeons and heroics, as that’s where 99% of all tank demand comes from. As for raids, there’s the same demand for a prot paladin as there is for every other tank, raid needs 1 each for most content and the prot paladin can swap to healing really easily, the feral brings strong dps for an OT and the warrior just kinda hits like a wet noodle.
That said, there will be a demand for prot paladins on horde simply because they’re new
True, and I agree with you.
Though, let’s be real. Druids basically have to engage in a PR campaign because of the huge amount of misinfo out there about ferals. A large portion of the playerbase have no idea what they’re talking about when it comes to druids. If I had a nickel for every stupid bit of nonsense about ferals I’ve had to hear, many times coming out of the mouth of a warrior main, I’d be richer than Bobby Kotick lol.
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The most shocking thing to me, is seeing the same incredibly wrong information that I saw back in the original TBC, parroted again.
“Armor has diminishing returns, so bears not that good” - no, there are no diminishing returns, there is no soft cap. There is a hard cap at 75% vs whatever level of mob you’re fighting.
“CrUsHiNg BlOwS” - non-issue when your ehp is large enough to blot out the sun, and armor advantage makes them much closer to a normal hit on a warrior/paladin.
“They’ll have a hard time finding gear” - probably one of the dumber things I’ve seen lately.
“X has better single target threat” - another laugh track worthy ‘reason’ for bears being bad.
eh, let them find out themselves when all the best guilds transition their MT to a feral in later content
I don’t think people would flip out if their tank just said, “sorry this is my first time in this instance, can someone else lead?”
I tanked the first few months in Classic until I hit 60. Sure, I read a few guides on what the instance was and the like, but i made no pretense with regards to the lower level instances. And people were cool with that.
But at the end of the day, you’re the tank. People can either help you, or they can wait another 2 hours. I think there would be a lot more tanks if people would just be ok with communicating with others and assume that tanks must lead. Does it normally turn out that way? Sure. It doesn’t need to be.
Edit: Even to this day, I don’t know my way around Wailing Caverns. I had to say to the folks there, sorry but someone is going to have to show me the way. And if you know better, mark as well. Otherwise, I’ll just mark how i see fit. They were totally cool with it.
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I think it’s just the nature of the human brain. I tanked maybe 30-40+ dungeons that were neutral or fantastic.
But those 4-5 that were bad, were really bad and stressful.
Toxic people are easy, just boot them or leave since you are a tank. It’s when people are don’t listen. Those drive you up the wall, or they are just on the borderline level of toxic where you want to kick them, but they never quite cross the line.
Also those runs tend to take 3-4 times as long and they just stick in your brain.
A slight shift here, but will Healers be the limiting faction for Dungeon groups as it seems like a lot of Druids seem to be going Feral for tank and offtank dps and Paladins are going protection ?
The shortage will be in heroics which require rep grinds and gear.
At least at the beginning it will be a shortage of mains since they will have to get rep and I doubt people will be up for the grind twice in a short period of time.
Tanking isn’t bad until you hit 70 and all the warlocks start casting seed on everything in sight. They literally can’t help themselves.
I don’t know how TBC is going to play out, but at least paladins and druids can still heal of need be? It may not be optimal, but it would still work?
Druids are a little more limited since we don’t have an OOC rez. But there’s going to be a ton of shaman, pallies, and spriests around so I don’t see finding a spot as a druid healer being a huge issue.
Druid rez can be used in or out of combat. Its limitation is that it has a 30 minute cooldown and requires a reagent.
Being able to only res one person per dungeon run, kind of makes it useless as an out of combat res though.
No doubt. I was just trying to clear up any confusion.
lol you know what I’m talking about.
Let me correct myself:
Druids are a little more limited since our rez can be used in or out of combat but its limitation is that it has a 30 minute cooldown and requires a reagent. But there’s going to be a ton of shaman, pallies, and spriests around so I don’t see finding a spot as a druid healer being a huge issue.
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Very in demand around 2 or 3 months in a massive part of the “tank hopeful” will either quit tanking, quit playing or be rejected from tanking because they are too difficult to play with.
Given 10mans and 5mam heroics being a steady need be it for nethers, badges, or for some classes specific epic pieces that are bis for p1…highly in demand.
Now when it comes to 25man the reverse is true. The demand is lower than the supply by the very nature of 10man comps/requirements.
Ironically its not prot paladins or prot warriors who benefit from this… actually a detriment to both. Feral druids are the ones who win since they can competitively dps or tank with one spec and differing gear sets. But thats dependent on the tanks not being feral so still not great situation.
Tanks will always be in demand but don’t expect easy mode spots in 25 mans as a tank. There’s more competition than some realize by the very nature of 10mans.
Good point, 25-mans will be a bit more selective about their tanks as there really is only 2 spots. So any tank will need to be on their game to ensure a routine 25-man spot.
I have seen cases where guilds have a surplus of tanks eligible for the 25-man runs and they have to rotate them. For example, two tanks do first half of Kara then swap out, or two tanks run one week then the other two the next.
Best case, you get into a guild that is either low on tanks and you get a spot each week, or is really big and can field several 25-man teams.
Unless you are a GM or close friends with guild leadership don’t expect to get a tanking spot. Noting personal but gearing is such a pain in vanilla and classic. They just want to make sure they are giving the keys to the right person who will make it until Kiljaden and mabye even farm SWP.